Warfare & Tactics

i dont have the skills to test this stuff out but im still trying to learn so sorry for probably the worst rattlesnake fit youve ever seen.

This is for small gang work, or maybe even solo at some point if i can swing it in which case id drop something for a scrambler.

The idea being to MJD within range of the webs. MWD would be used prior to MJD so that the jump lands me at the appropriate distance(1224km/s overheated MWD 13s agility). Then use webs stay within range of them. Neutralizers burn out their scrambler, AB/mwd, shield tanks, smartbombs or whatever else their using. Once their scram is burned out i can turn MWD back on to facilitate staying within range

Webs make ogres effective. I know rattlesnake has cruise/torp bonuses but this is a brawler rattler and DPS on torps/cruise is terrible vs small targets. Which necessitates webs close range combat. And even then torps still suck for damage application.

Im trying to decide whats more important. bumping my dps from 793 to 933 (140dps increase) + 49.8 cap/s neutralizing

[Rattlesnake, rattlesnake tank]
Signal Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Microwarpdrive II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II

Ogre II x5
Garde II x5

or staying with 813dps + 123.5 cap/s neutralizing

[Rattlesnake, rattlesnake tank]
Signal Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Microwarpdrive II

Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Proton Smartbomb II

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II

Ogre II x5
Garde II x5

this one also comes with a smartbomb for any drone problems that might come up(ECM). Im leaning towards pure neutralizer since that will help me get to safety if i get pointed in bad situation. It will burn out an opponents AB/MWD faster for easier controlling of their speed. And if their running resistence buffs/shield boosters it will make them die about as fast as with the RLM version. Also to burn out their scram so i can use my MWD

ok thats all.....be gentle :)

The MJD might work the first or second time... but it won't work again once people realize what you're doing. Then they'll just get a bunch of scram frigates, pin you, and gnaw you down (which will be easy as you have no buffer).


fake edit: also... seconding Cruise Missiles. They won't be as effective as Rapid Light Launchers against smaller targets, but they'll still apply okay damage and be able to deal non-laughable damage against larger targets.

Generally you want in a small gang/solo battleship some Kind of active tank. I would go with the very strong tripple X-L ASB setup, boosted by a Tengu and at least Low grade Crystal set + obligatory blue pill.
Question is: why Rattlesnake? Why not a Dominix Navy Issue? These make excellent brawling Battleships, which obviously is what you are going to be forced to do.

Well the domi has double the DPS.

how does domi have double the dps? Same drone dps and the weapon systems are pretty close too

I have to admit it doesnt have the double DPS, but it comes close to it with 1950 overheated Void.


Without the whole implants/ faction stuff you can get 1800 by using Ion blasters.

EDIT

this is the Rattlesnake fit I was speaking about:

Oh and i was reading that bhaalgorn replaced navy dom. When i messed around in eft i wasnt impressed. Which probably meams i fit it wrong or missed the big picture any newb tips so i can see the bhaal for the monster it is?

I get that advice frequently. No worries though, i have 7m sp some of which is in mining so i wont be blowing up any rattlers with my fail fits/tactics. I have plenty of time to theory my way to semi competency though.

I thought u needed 80% total cap to warp? In either case i read u loud and clear. Low cap = warp short distance but still get away

Why cant u neut out someones scrambler? I read people recomending just that for carriers. Neut out the point warp away?

Whats wrong with my understanding of dps application for a bs? Im using eft. Putting targets vector perpendicular to mine which is about as bad as its going to get. Eft takes into account all the tracking, signature size, vector/speed stuff. What am i missing?

I wont be jumping into bs before ive earned my frig strip

So i understand that i cant neut out someones scrambler so i can use my mwd if the point is only thing he want to use. And i do want to point out im talking about neut the scramble so i can use the mwd not mjd. Does that make a difference? Can i neut his point for one sec allowing me to cycle and once the cycle starts it finishes even with a point on me? Or does the point end the cycle midway? Also

Most ships have 1minute of cap available before they run out using all their mods. Then they have to turn some off to be able to uae....lets say half. If im also neuting him it would stand to reason even fewer modules would be running if im neuting him right? One of the mods he doesnt turn on could be scramble, or his neut. Especially if hes running cap usage weapons. Somethings gotta give no?

Have i said anything about my understanding of applied dps that would need fine tuning? Or is it my lack of finer details of neuting and general newbness lead to that opinion? Because theory is all i have for now and i want to make the most of it so when i start flying frigs i can move to my real goal with post haste. No matter what im going to need that theory knowledge to make best use of the bs and avoid bs losses anyways.

Ive read about plenty of frig pilots who fly, lose frigs and learn little because of how fast the frigs die. And from other games ive played i value theory first and practical experience second only to finetune the theory. This isnt a twitch reflex game where the opposite would be true.

I know initially my brain will be in shellshock during pvp with muddled decision making but with the theory core in place ill be able to push thru that relatively quickly.

Im down with destroyer what makes it better to learn in rather than frig which i hear recomended to newbs more often?

If i cap them out what can i expect to happen to their modules because usually im told i wont be able to force them to stop scrambling, neuting or even shooting their cap weapons.