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Why are people in my militia allowed to target me?

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Shanky Shanks
Shanky Shanks Corporation
#1 - 2013-07-20 16:56:08 UTC
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#2 - 2013-07-20 17:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
You're Forgetting rule number one in eve, never trust anyone.

Even the asteroids are out to get players...see mercoxit.Big smile
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#3 - 2013-07-20 17:09:19 UTC
Because it's lowsec, because it's allowed in every corp, and because this is an open PvP game.

Katrina Oniseki
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2013-07-20 17:42:07 UTC
Because we need to root out traitors and spies... and punish those who make the rest of us look bad.

How did you Veterans start?
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-20 17:45:30 UTC
People barely lose any faction standing shooting Militia friendlies, they can kill the militia NPC standings however but the Militia NPC standings have nothing to do with remaining in militia, only the faction standings.

I knew someone before who always used to kill Militia friends and it always annoyed everyone.

I got to admit killing militia friendlies should kill your faction standing but it isn't the mechanics atm.
Shanky Shanks
Shanky Shanks Corporation
#6 - 2013-07-20 18:05:51 UTC
Eh, kind of dumb to say the least. I get your can't trust anyone and blah blah. That isn't what this is about though, They should re title the militia to 24th No Team Cohesion, in description, Welcome to free for all lp grind... It's you vs the four factions. Good luck.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7 - 2013-07-20 18:08:49 UTC
Don't be a spai then.

In more seriousness, it's quite common to shoot at members of the NPC faction warfare corp, since that is basically a giant breeding ground for spies.

So, join a player controlled corp for it.

But really, your character is only a few weeks old, you look very much like a spy.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Shanky Shanks
Shanky Shanks Corporation
#8 - 2013-07-20 18:21:31 UTC
From the sounds of it, "spy" in eve is like saying you have a friend in line and cutting in front of everyone. It isn't really true, it's just something everyone says so they can shoot people on their team. People do not look at me or how old my character is. They insta lock and fire. Anyways, it's eve and you can't trust people and whatever, but they should implement faction loss or soemthing.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#9 - 2013-07-20 18:52:09 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?



Maybe find your own plex?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#10 - 2013-07-20 18:55:15 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
From the sounds of it, "spy" in eve is like saying you have a friend in line and cutting in front of everyone. It isn't really true, it's just something everyone says so they can shoot people on their team. People do not look at me or how old my character is. They insta lock and fire. Anyways, it's eve and you can't trust people and whatever, but they should implement faction loss or soemthing.


Ha! No.

This just revealed how bad you are, my friend.

If I, for example, am a Minmatar faction player, then I can put a low skillpoint alt in 24 Imperial Crusade, and then boom, I have access to Milita chat, and I can see them do all of their planning and everything in that chat.

It's an extremely common tactic, actually. Something like one in ten people in the Amarr militia are spies. Most of them, lowbie alts, like you.

Like I said, not being a spy really helps with not getting shot at. So does getting a real corp (because then you run in fleets and the single guy will get killed by your guys).

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-07-20 19:18:42 UTC
Call Rollard wrote:
I got to admit killing militia friendlies should kill your faction standing but it isn't the mechanics atm.


In a game where loyalties are as fleeting as a Cheetah, having such combat even for a RP sense is meaningless.

It's perfect for 4chan griefers, though.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#12 - 2013-07-21 00:54:33 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?

Both are allowed, but targeting and firing at you are two different things.

Sometimes I am pretty happy when friendlies target me....and keep the buffs coming.
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-07-21 01:00:54 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:

It's perfect for 4chan griefers, though.


Go hang out in Stormwind if you're afraid, sweetie.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#14 - 2013-07-21 01:03:46 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?


Because pub militias are usually full of idiots, farmers, spies, etc.

There are plenty of good Amarr militia player corps and alliances to choose from; you'll be having more fun in FW the sooner you find one you like and join them.
duckmonster
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-07-21 01:04:40 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
I got to admit killing militia friendlies should kill your faction standing but it isn't the mechanics atm.


In a game where loyalties are as fleeting as a Cheetah, having such combat even for a RP sense is meaningless.

It's perfect for 4chan griefers, though.


AWOXing owns. You should try it!
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#16 - 2013-07-21 01:19:12 UTC
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#17 - 2013-07-21 05:23:27 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?



If unprovoked - its the crap players doing it.

They use unsuspecting friendlies to 'pad/fake' their killboard stats.


The only time it is acceptable is if you enter a plex and the timer is almost down and you stay.

They should ask you to leave 1st.
If you refuse then you will be shot.

If you did the second one- and didn't leave as soon as you landed - you deserved it.
If they agressed without warning - they are just morons.


Find a good corp and then the morons will leave you alone more often.




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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#18 - 2013-07-21 07:25:46 UTC
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?


because plex mechanics share lp from plex , people consider you are so called "plex stealer" who is only leaching lp from plexes and that is why they shoot you.

Usually if you are 1st in plex they might leave you alone, but not always. It is jungle out there only strongest survive.
neo smith
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-07-21 16:17:09 UTC  |  Edited by: neo smith
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?



Maybe find your own plex?



this ^

they will just think you a enemy alt stealing there lp or just a thief stealing there lp. outcome will be the same
Eliram Kahoudi
Big Fluffy Bunnies
#20 - 2013-07-22 00:45:00 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Shanky Shanks wrote:
Wanting to try out faction warfare but if I enter a plex with a friendly militia mate they fire at me. Why is this allowed in a NPC corp?



Maybe find your own plex?



woooah there lets not say something we cant take back