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sackofwine
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-07-19 18:31:43 UTC
Heres a nifty little site right here. http://k162space.com/2013/01/30/visualization-of-moon-mineral-concentrations/

This site is not 100 percent accurate either in fact far from it. But if you scroll down you see the distribution map. This tells us the way ccp distributed certain minerals to certain regions. In the case of caesium you see it is almost completely concentrated in the west. So when you say there are 10's of thousands of moons in eve that's true. However, in the case of caesium we are talking about a way smaller number of potential moons that contain that mineral.
RAW23
#22 - 2013-07-19 18:37:29 UTC
mynnna wrote:


If Dotlan is accurate and has accounted for every moon. You'll excuse me if I decline to buy that.


For his point to stand it doesn’t matter if the dotlan sample is complete, only that the sample is proportionately representative. Are there any reasons to think that it is not? Perhaps Aridia and Fountain are better mapped than other regions?

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Dunka Panala
Iskender Kebap Corp
#23 - 2013-07-19 19:00:44 UTC
sackofwine wrote:
Heres a nifty little site right here. http://k162space.com/2013/01/30/visualization-of-moon-mineral-concentrations/

This site is not 100 percent accurate either in fact far from it. But if you scroll down you see the distribution map. This tells us the way ccp distributed certain minerals to certain regions. In the case of caesium you see it is almost completely concentrated in the west. So when you say there are 10's of thousands of moons in eve that's true. However, in the case of caesium we are talking about a way smaller number of potential moons that contain that mineral.


Cache = 0,67 % coverage
Curse = 7,4 % coverage
Delve = 2,4 % coverage
Derelik = 6% coverage
Deteroid = 7,6 % coverage
Devoid = 4,3 % coverage
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Only 2 Regions with barely 50% coverage and 11 Regions with more then 40%. That means every second moon is unkown.

Most of the Caesium might be found in the western part of the donut (~60-70%). So are Hafnium and Mercury for the east and Techn for the north.

Most of the Moons are in player hands so Goonswarm will never see the Goo. Why? Because they tax the moons and will not keep it. To get into some kind of an Oligopol the group of Caesium holders should hold at least 85% of a source, which is not met by the current circumstances.

Nothing will change after the GS have taken Fountain.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2013-07-19 20:41:09 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
mynnna wrote:


If Dotlan is accurate and has accounted for every moon. You'll excuse me if I decline to buy that.


For his point to stand it doesn’t matter if the dotlan sample is complete, only that the sample is proportionately representative. Are there any reasons to think that it is not? Perhaps Aridia and Fountain are better mapped than other regions?

Dotlan's scans are highly variable between regions. Lowsec tends to be fairly complete, conquerable 0.0 is often woefully incomplete and with deliberate lies (back in the tech days more than a few venal techs were listed on dotlan as tungsten).
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-07-19 21:02:35 UTC
Coco, this is the sign for Moon. *waves hand*

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

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SencneS
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-07-19 21:29:23 UTC
haha .... If I can find my data for Geminate I think I would hand it over to the guy with the moon analysis..
I think I scanned over 3000 moons in the hole of a region and his data only has 344 of them.

Got to find it first...
Dunka Panala
Iskender Kebap Corp
#27 - 2013-07-20 01:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Dunka Panala
IMHO It would be really funny if CCP introduces some kind of Moon Goo Interaction where you must klick some random icons to get a moongoo pinata. The actual system of moonmining is really sad, especially in a big Alliance where most of the interesting moons got occupied by offlined blue towers Sad


EDIT : It should be possible to get at least some kind of R64 in each moon on a percentual basis. 1-2 units of a random R64 per cycle mixed with other R32 (2-4), R16 (4-8), R8 (8-16) etc would be fair.
sackofwine
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-07-20 14:36:06 UTC  |  Edited by: sackofwine
i never said they would have cartel status with caesium. I find it hard to believe goons would spend trillions of isk going after 58 r64 moons in fountain. Now i know goons will scream "Dotlan isn't accurate idiot!". Fountain in dotlan is 84% complete. Now how many more moons could there really be not accounted for? Handful at most.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-07-20 17:51:50 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Dunka Panala wrote:
IMHO It would be really funny if CCP introduces some kind of Moon Goo Interaction where you must klick some random icons to get a moongoo pinata. The actual system of moonmining is really sad, especially in a big Alliance where most of the interesting moons got occupied by offlined blue towers Sad


EDIT : It should be possible to get at least some kind of R64 in each moon on a percentual basis. 1-2 units of a random R64 per cycle mixed with other R32 (2-4), R16 (4-8), R8 (8-16) etc would be fair.


I'm sure Fozzie appreciates any idea that would force him to completely rebuild moon goo consumption ratios from the ground up, which is what your idea would require.

sackofwine wrote:
i never said they would have cartel status with caesium. I find it hard to believe goons would spend trillions of isk going after 58 r64 moons in fountain. Now i know goons will scream "Dotlan isn't accurate idiot!". Fountain in dotlan is 84% complete. Now how many more moons could there really be not accounted for? Handful at most.


Fountain may be 84% complete, but you seem to believe it when Dotlan says there's only ~250 Caesium moons in all of Eve. That is where the problem is here.

Also, Dotlan's percent complete indicator makes no accounting for the accuracy of the data, only that data is present for a given moon. As weaselior noted, the data has been known to be poisoned in the past.

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forestwho
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-07-20 18:34:09 UTC
mynnna wrote:
I think three things.



  • You don't know **** about our stockpiles. We were, in fact, selling almost all of our Tech at a slight discount to internal membership for them to use in reactions, so Tech stockpiles are actually rather small.
  • You don't know **** about moon goo, otherwise you'd realize how silly it is to say "Welp I guess everyone was wrong" only a month and a half after the patch.
  • You basically don't know ****.


I find this inappropiate languish for a CSM spokesman, i will go petition this.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#31 - 2013-07-20 21:21:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
forestwho wrote:
I find this inappropiate languish for a CSM spokesman, i will go petition this.


He certainly is languishing in this thread. Talk about deaf ears - what a waste of time...

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-07-21 14:25:10 UTC
Zappity wrote:
forestwho wrote:
I find this inappropiate languish for a CSM spokesman, i will go petition this.


He certainly is languishing in this thread. Talk about deaf ears - what a waste of time...


I completely agree, he should have used the proper monkey sign language instead.

:condi:

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

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El Geo
Warcrows
Sedition.
#33 - 2013-07-22 17:54:11 UTC
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