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Recruitment Scamming. Now a bannable offense.

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Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#61 - 2011-11-09 21:52:48 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
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lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

Quote:
"we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility."


Good for CCP, I'm glad they posted that. I'm sure it chaffes the Goons, but I've said for years: The Goons are no good for EVE, anyway.

Quote:
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.


Your rhetoric is pretty weak. and your bias is obvious. 4/10

CCP is not "out of touch". Quite the opposite: They are in-touch with the market and the new players that are flooding into EVE, but for some reason, not sticking around. CCP is trying to retain players. Unfortunately for Goonswarm (the stated mission of which is to grief people until they quit playing...) this may not fit their agenda and desires.


You are very vocal and opinionated for a 3 day old character in an NPC Corp.


My character is only 3 days old? Geez, I sure am learning a lot of new things in this thread!
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#62 - 2011-11-09 21:52:53 UTC
Xython wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Yet another who did not read the important part of the post mentioning that recruitment scams outside of the official help channel are still allowed.


Sssh! The more idiot pubbies that believe otherwise, the easier the marks are.

:themoreyouknow:


Idiot pubbbies do not read GD. But I get your point.


Slade
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2011-11-09 21:55:43 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS.

Then why do you keep insisting that the MOTD in the Recruitment channel is going to end recruitment scamming? You are not making any sense.


Can you please point out where I claimed that the MoTD in the Recruitment Channel is going to end recruitment scamming?

Again, I'll wait. :)

You made this post. I replied with "lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scamming". You started posting a bunch of incoherent nonsense.

It shouldn't be so difficult to get your point across. Considering how much you are struggling you might want to practice a bit more.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#64 - 2011-11-09 22:01:10 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS.

Then why do you keep insisting that the MOTD in the Recruitment channel is going to end recruitment scamming? You are not making any sense.


Can you please point out where I claimed that the MoTD in the Recruitment Channel is going to end recruitment scamming?

Again, I'll wait. :)

You made this post. I replied with "lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scamming". You started posting a bunch of incoherent nonsense.

It shouldn't be so difficult to get your point across. Considering how much you are struggling you might want to practice a bit more.


Yes, I made that post. I'm reading it over right now and... I don't see any statements from me claiming that recruitment scamming is against the ToS, or that I believe it to be against the ToS, or that recruitment scamming is "coming to an end", or anything else you've been saying. What I did say, was that I supported CCP in their decision and went on to elaborate about how player autonomy is a doubled-edged sword, and that CCP upholds a delicate balance between player retention and said player autonomy.

It is now clear that you are either an idiot, or just trolling me. And considering you're in Goonswarm, it's probably both. 2/10 because you kept me engaged in your nonsense for more than 5 minutes, but I'm heading off for now.





Oh.... and you can send the apology anytime. Cool
John DaiSho
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2011-11-09 23:37:44 UTC
This discussion is totally going a good way i mean both your arguments are awesome. "You did say it" "No i didnt" "Yes you did!" and so on...
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#66 - 2011-11-10 00:40:54 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
Goons are screwed now then...oh wait im sure Mittani can talk to hilmar and get special treatment...Roll


Yeah the Joe Paterno special treatment.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#67 - 2011-11-10 00:44:26 UTC
petitioning is now a bannable offense.
posting is now a bannable offense
logging in is now a bannable offense
playing eve is now a bannable offence

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
NJEchoAlpha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2011-11-10 00:45:15 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
The only reason I play Eve is because the interactions between players are direct and all have impacts, everything from scams to ganking. While there is a disadvantage to some players, Eve is a better game with this. If CCP feels the right path is to hold everyone's hands and make nobody feel sad or upset, then Eve is dead. I will not hesitate to move on, and I'm sure others will feel the same way.

Edit: Inappropriate parts removed, CCP Phantom.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#69 - 2011-11-10 00:47:59 UTC
NJEchoAlpha wrote:
Crossposted due to mod oppression.

The only reason I play Eve is because the interactions between players are direct and all have impacts, everything from scams to ganking. While there is a disadvantage to some players, Eve is a better game with this. If CCP feels the right path is to hold everyone's hands and make nobody feel sad or upset, then Eve is dead. I will not hesitate to move on, and I'm sure others will feel the same way.

Oh please. They aren't hand holding anyone. CCP provided the channel, they have the right to dictate the rules of the channel, just as any player who makes a channel can.

CCP just has a bit more power.
Jr Instructorcon
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2011-11-10 00:49:25 UTC
I am more interested in the people who were permanently banned for petitioning this change. Too bad we can't discuss it on the forums.
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#71 - 2011-11-10 00:56:48 UTC
Spelling errors are now a bannable offense
^I'm fukt, can't spell worth ****^

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2011-11-10 00:59:13 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:

playing eve is now a bannable offence



Life is a deadly STD.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Tarion Awessi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2011-11-10 00:59:15 UTC
Alice Katsuko wrote:
You can still make recruitment scams, just not in an official in-game channel made by CCP. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Nope.

Nex apparatu5 wrote:
No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam.
You see someone is looking for a corp in the channel, you privately message them about it and scam them. According to the wording of this, you just broke the rules and (presumably) get banned/some other punishment. Instead, you have to find the players through some other means and just hope you both weren't in the Recruitment channel at the same time, otherwise you'll probably get petitioned.

Obviously, its not going to end recruitment scamming. But to say it only applies to things within the recruitment channel is somewhere between outright denial and illiteracy.
K Suri
Doomheim
#74 - 2011-11-10 00:59:24 UTC  |  Edited by: K Suri
Xython wrote:
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.

For a "swarm" mentality alliance not much collective happening.

On one hand you have Mrs. Harlot proclaiming "bigdeal", "who cares", "won't make any difference" and then there is you screaming "Hello Kitty", "idiot - Concorded".

ffs Goons, at LEAST reach a consenus. Maybe you need The Mittani to write a press release for you?

/me shakes his head in wonder at the phenomena called "Goons".
K Suri
Doomheim
#75 - 2011-11-10 01:02:50 UTC  |  Edited by: K Suri
NJEchoAlpha wrote:
Crossposted due to mod oppression.

The only reason I play Eve is because the interactions between players are direct and all have impacts, everything from scams to ganking. While there is a disadvantage to some players, Eve is a better game with this. If CCP feels the right path is to hold everyone's hands and make nobody feel sad or upset, then Eve is dead. I will not hesitate to move on, and I'm sure others will feel the same way.

Can I haz?

Oh wait.
.
.
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You're a 0.0 alliance member basking in almost absolute safety with trillions in iskies and assets, backed up by thousands of "leets" and you're freaking out over a RECRUITMENT channel MOTD!!!!!

Oh my.

Can I haz?
Jacada Ansari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-11-10 01:05:07 UTC
I am enjoying this enthralling discussion. Please continue.
K Suri
Doomheim
#77 - 2011-11-10 01:07:30 UTC
Tarion Awessi wrote:
Alice Katsuko wrote:
You can still make recruitment scams, just not in an official in-game channel made by CCP. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Nope.

Nex apparatu5 wrote:
No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam.
You see someone is looking for a corp in the channel, you privately message them about it and scam them. According to the wording of this, you just broke the rules and (presumably) get banned/some other punishment. Instead, you have to find the players through some other means and just hope you both weren't in the Recruitment channel at the same time, otherwise you'll probably get petitioned.

Obviously, its not going to end recruitment scamming. But to say it only applies to things within the recruitment channel is somewhere between outright denial and illiteracy.

Nice pickup. Is that why you guys are raging?

'Cos now people are being warned that there are scamming, lying, thieving SOB's in recruit?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#78 - 2011-11-10 01:09:20 UTC
So the pets have a new cause célèbre. Their righteous wrath will be released in an unholy jihad against the oppressors.

Luckily for the new players so easily discouraged from that first sub , it won't work. Like can baiting in noob systems, this has been abused and has been stopped.

But, if it makes y'all feel better pissing into the wind, by all means continue. Keeps me logging in.

Mr Epeen Cool
Jr Instructorcon
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2011-11-10 01:12:05 UTC
This does not protect noobies. Noobies are not scammed because they have nothing of value. This is only protecting people who have atleast 500 million ISK and are dumb enough to fall for a recruitment scam.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2011-11-10 01:16:28 UTC
Jacada Ansari wrote:
I am enjoying this enthralling discussion. Please continue.


I hardly know which thread I'm posting in anymore. Betweem whining, ganking, scamming, trolling and Harlot's magnificent face, the streams have long merged.

It's not merely enthralling, it's a posting trance.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us