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This whole TEST / Goons War.
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Telraven
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-07-17 01:29:55 UTC

Call me crazy, but for someone who has no part in it just looking in. It really looks like neither side has really achieved anything of note. Plenty forum posts certainly. but the dotlan map remains pretty much unchanged.

Even the propaganda which has been entertaining in the past seems to have gotten stale.
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#2 - 2013-07-17 03:50:11 UTC
It's a war between 2+ super powers. it is bound to be slow sometimes. One will give way too the other or all will go back too the status quo

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Winthorp
#3 - 2013-07-17 05:36:20 UTC
Why can't we all just get along.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#4 - 2013-07-17 06:07:10 UTC
(nobody cares)
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#5 - 2013-07-17 06:15:44 UTC
Is there a war in Null?

Only war I know of saw about 800 ships destroyed in Innia last weekend.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#6 - 2013-07-17 10:00:27 UTC
What is Null Sec? This isn't a place for irrelevant things.
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#7 - 2013-07-17 10:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
IbanezLaney wrote:
Is there a war in Null?

Only war I know of saw about 800 ships destroyed in Innia last weekend.



What a fun weekend props to u guys for bringing the fights

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#8 - 2013-07-17 12:16:01 UTC
OP, it's called CAOD Arrow

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#9 - 2013-07-17 15:41:28 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
(nobody cares)


Sean Parisi wrote:
What is Null Sec? This isn't a place for irrelevant things.

nom nom
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-17 16:28:38 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
(nobody cares)

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-17 17:33:11 UTC
800 ships? damn.

Where do you get the weekend statistics?
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-17 20:50:54 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
800 ships? damn.

Where do you get the weekend statistics?

If you go somewhere and there's 800 wrecks, it's not like the tree in the woods, 800 ships MUST have been destroyed.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#13 - 2013-07-18 03:39:32 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
800 ships? damn.

Where do you get the weekend statistics?


From the in game map.

It said 794 when I checked it.

Might be more - the stat might have been for 'last 24 hours'.
I should have done a screenshot.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-07-19 01:55:19 UTC
War? Are we at war? Oh damn, that explains a few things. Thanks OP.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-07-19 02:47:21 UTC
Taking sov is not a quick thing.. do some research, also look for most expensive losses if you want to see where the war is, Null wars generally aren't fought in frigs and cruisers.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#16 - 2013-07-19 12:42:27 UTC
Telraven wrote:

Call me crazy, but for someone who has no part in it just looking in. It really looks like neither side has really achieved anything of note. Plenty forum posts certainly. but the dotlan map remains pretty much unchanged.

Even the propaganda which has been entertaining in the past seems to have gotten stale.


it's a case of a scrum. Neither team has an overwhelming advantage.

The plus on the Goon side is that they have a strong culture, a history of winning and an attitude that no matter what, they'll eventually prevail.... even if it means taking one system at a time in rifters.

Test are slightly different. I'm not privy to the details but it seems to me that test is an amalgamation of loose nullsec heavyweights that reformed in around 2010 on the heels of the fail-cascades of several of their founding predecessors. The joker in any fight with Test is wondering to what extent they have PL on a leash.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-07-19 18:43:36 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Taking sov is not a quick thing.. do some research, also look for most expensive losses if you want to see where the war is, Null wars generally aren't fought in frigs and cruisers.


wrong. stealth bombers play a major factor in most battles. as do covert ops frigs for cynos. l2p.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#18 - 2013-07-19 19:42:41 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Taking sov is not a quick thing.. do some research, also look for most expensive losses if you want to see where the war is, Null wars generally aren't fought in frigs and cruisers.



Stealth bombers versus structures.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-07-19 19:47:17 UTC
Lee Hekard wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
Null wars generally aren't fought in frigs and cruisers.

wrong. stealth bombers play a major factor in most battles. as do covert ops frigs for cynos. l2p.


While Cage's 'generally' may be sorta true, especially from a historical PoV, Lee is spot-on here.

Frigates are playing a huge part in the Fountain invasion. They are the backbone of the round-the-clock invasion seige-fleets, bigtime players in the larger set-piece engagements, and constantly out playing FCd from all sides.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2013-07-19 19:48:44 UTC
Cearain wrote:

Stealth bombers versus structures.


More like 'Stealth Bombers versus everything" ... and usually coming out on top.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
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