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Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-07-18 16:43:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Hekard
Removed content. I give up.
Shiera Kuni
Electric Machete
#2 - 2013-07-18 16:57:29 UTC
I actually read all of that, I want that amount of my life back now. EVE is a dangerous place, gatecamps happen. Sure, they can suck if you're caught in one but they're not infallible. As you've stated there are ways to predict them, those ways aren't surefire but neither are the chances that a gatecamp will actually catch you. If you're having that much trouble with them, stab up, cloak up, and/or travel with friends. Anyone traveling alone should always be prepared to lose whatever they're flying to a camp.

CCP Falcon:  This thread is terrible.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-07-18 17:00:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Hekard
Shiera Kuni wrote:
I want that amount of my life back now.


Nope, no refunds. Thanks for playing.
Adunh Slavy
#4 - 2013-07-18 17:03:54 UTC
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-07-18 17:13:28 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.


At least read the OP before commenting. You may find EVE easy but give reading lessons a shot too!
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#6 - 2013-07-18 17:34:44 UTC
Having read the OP in its entirety, I can safely say that bullet points are your friend. Once I actually understood the point you were making I came to the following conclusion: there is no problem here. You even admitted it yourself, look!

Lee Hekard wrote:
I am not against sensor link modules and would not like to see them removed from the game; they have a place in the game an if I am caught out by a group of ships fit to work together then that's the game and so be it.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#7 - 2013-07-18 17:41:09 UTC
Lee Hekard wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.


At least read the OP before commenting. You may find EVE easy but give reading lessons a shot too!

Might want to take your own advice there, he was more or less agreeing (or at least sympathizing) with you.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-07-18 18:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Hekard
Zor'katar wrote:
Lee Hekard wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.


At least read the OP before commenting. You may find EVE easy but give reading lessons a shot too!

Might want to take your own advice there, he was more or less agreeing (or at least sympathizing) with you.


Oops, now I've read the comment more thoroughly I can see that you were right, although it is a little oddly worded. Anyhow, I've still yet to get a constructive reply on this topic that isn't tongue-in-cheek.

The main crux of my OP is not sensor link modules but GATE MECHANICS. I don't really care how other people play EVE. What I do care about is a mechanic that lets pilots sit forever on a gate and feed off of a constant supply of unsuspecting targets. And yes, those two sentences are contradictory but there IS a point there.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-07-18 22:19:57 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.



Please, tell me again how more hostile cynos in friendly regions is good for the sov holders?
Adunh Slavy
#10 - 2013-07-19 04:19:29 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:

Please, tell me again how more hostile cynos in friendly regions is good for the sov holders?



Sure, once you tell me how often you construct starman arguments.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Jason Marshall
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-19 05:37:14 UTC
Shiera Kuni wrote:
I actually read all of that, I want that amount of my life back now. EVE is a dangerous place, gatecamps happen. Sure, they can suck if you're caught in one but they're not infallible. As you've stated there are ways to predict them, those ways aren't surefire but neither are the chances that a gatecamp will actually catch you. If you're having that much trouble with them, stab up, cloak up, and/or travel with friends. Anyone traveling alone should always be prepared to lose whatever they're flying to a camp.


You've saved my time and im sure you saved a lot of other people the time reading OP.

Your time wasn't wasted after all it had meaning!
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-07-19 05:45:45 UTC
Maybe you should fit a Hyperion, jump into the gatecamp, and destroy everything in sight.

Or, you know, not jump through gates un-scouted in a ship that has no way of evading a camp. Either could work.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-19 05:59:57 UTC
Ganthrithor wrote:
Maybe you should fit a Hyperion, jump into the gatecamp, and destroy everything in sight.

Or, you know, not jump through gates un-scouted in a ship that has no way of evading a camp. Either could work.


A Goon that can't read?!
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#14 - 2013-07-19 09:41:43 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
You'll hear a lot of "eve is hard" arguments from the most noisy group of Eve, the gank bears. Most of them are too short sighted and stupid to realize that safer entry into dangerous space means more people in dangerous space. But gank bears don't like that, they want to keep Eve PVP simplistic and dumb, as it suits them.

and some other seems too short sighted and stupid to actually think we want more ppl to enter into dangerous space.

where i live, we are NBSI and kill everything we can, for many reason.

we aim to secure "our" space so our non pvp pilots can do whatever they have to do (pve / industri / mining) in the best safety we can provide them with, and this include avoiding neuts buzzing around, because a single neut could be a cyno / threat etc...


you got killed while entering a lowsec pocket, well if it is ours, if you decided to not come back, i would say we fulfilled our task.
Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2013-07-19 11:25:13 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:

and some other seems too short sighted and stupid to actually think we want more ppl to enter into dangerous space.



No one gives a **** about your space but you, sorry to burst your little bubble.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#16 - 2013-07-19 11:29:05 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:

Please, tell me again how more hostile cynos in friendly regions is good for the sov holders?



Sure, once you tell me how often you construct starman arguments.


What's a "starman argument"?
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-07-19 12:42:53 UTC
We do need some sort of "stargate probe", so we don't end up using throw away trial toons or toons with <900k SP in rookie ships as scouts
Shiera Kuni
Electric Machete
#18 - 2013-07-19 15:19:12 UTC
Jason Marshall wrote:
Shiera Kuni wrote:
I actually read all of that, I want that amount of my life back now. EVE is a dangerous place, gatecamps happen. Sure, they can suck if you're caught in one but they're not infallible. As you've stated there are ways to predict them, those ways aren't surefire but neither are the chances that a gatecamp will actually catch you. If you're having that much trouble with them, stab up, cloak up, and/or travel with friends. Anyone traveling alone should always be prepared to lose whatever they're flying to a camp.


You've saved my time and im sure you saved a lot of other people the time reading OP.

Your time wasn't wasted after all it had meaning!


Woo! My sacrifice meant something!

CCP Falcon:  This thread is terrible.