Warfare & Tactics

Hello everyone and thank you ahead of time for reading this and writing comments should you do such.


I'm here again today because well, I'm horrible at PvP. Yes, I'm utterly pathetic at PvP. So bad as a matter of fact I've considered quiting EVE over the fact. I have battleships, cruisers, battlecruisers and an army of drones at my disposal. I did anyway until yesterday. All in all I suppose it was just a huge noob mistake trying to take on a Claw and three other ships before the enemy battleship finally arrived. The point is, how can I have all this weaponry and its so useless against everyone I try to fight. I have issues even fighting one on one. I either miss or hit and do almost no damage. Not to mention theres no way out of a Web or a Scrambler that I'm aware of now. Everything seems to be able to get too close to hit too fast and I love using lasers, sadly it looks like a waste of time because the range on them is so large if anything is within 30km of me I can't hit it at all.

So, is there a way to multi tank effectively? How do I prevent enemies from getting so close and if they do get that close how can I just stomp them realtively fast? I'm at a loss, it makes me look bad and 5 deaths later I doubt any corps, even the Brave Noobs would take me now. Please help.

Doesn't it only take 5 days to train t2 weapons on a frigate? You will never get those t2 weapons ! Way too long to train......

Ok, and easy plan for learning pvp:

1. Buy a dozen or so T1 frigates with cheap Meta fits. Should cost no more than 2 mil per frigate.
2. Enter lowsec (preferably near Hek, many frigate pilots there)
3. Find a fight (learn to use D-Scan)
4. Probably lose ship/pod because of lack of -player- skills
5. ask winner if he can give you a hint (He probably will, many PvPler love to teach new guys because that means more people to pvp with)
6. rinse and repeat.

... 7. Find yourself a nice lowsec PvP corp for your PvP alt. Staying in NPC corp is a sure fire way to quit eve.

You fell into the trap that bigger means better. (seeing you used BS) BS are great at killing BC but completely fail vs. cruiser and many frigates. If you need more hints, shot me an evemail, I will invite you to may trainee channel.

PS: The brave newbies will take you anyway. 5 losses are nothing.

You'll find that very few corps actually care about that. EVE is about people, what happened to you is in no way exceptional. Feel free to apply to my corp in game sometime soon. Which is a small gang EUTZ fw corp like many others, who would have little qualms taking in newbies. If you are willing to learn, which can be done at 3m per executioner. The first month yoh take each fight, lose a lot and learn what to stay clear of. Before long with help you'll be getting kills, just takes getting out and trying and dying.

Edit: forgot to mention feel free to join 'TRIAD Agency' channel in game.

well yeah a corp might look at that and think you're a massive idiot for flying pirate and faction ships as a newb :p

but then again it shows your WILLINGNESS to pvp and that's mostly what people look for when recruiting.

However, might I suggest leaving out the shitfit drramiels and battleships and trying something more suited to your skill level? Maybe start with t1 cruisers and the like, they are very strong ships since the rework.

Any suggestions on which ones? I know some have higher learning curbs than others as for builds...I guess armor taking and what not isn't exactly all its cracked up to be or am I just doing it wrong?

Eh yeah usually solo null. Probably not the smartest idea. What about rack overload, I noticed that the other day on items while I was doing some looking around. What does that do exactly?

There is no set of skills or win-all fit/ship that can give you a solution to not performing in PVP.

People who are good at PVP know how to exploit weaknesses in their opponent and know when the fight is lost before it's over by knowing their own strengths.

This comes with experience, it sounds like you may have had bad advice or role models in the past but its easy enough to unlearn. Try playing on the test server trying out fits and looking at ship strengths and weaknesses. Also look for a PVP corp to join to learn the ropes like Red vs Blue.

PVP is not always about winning either, take enjoyment in the thrill of it and when you lose learn why and put it in to practice next time, getting frustrated about it won't help.

You won't become good over night, there are a lot of game mechanics to learn and situations to face. And as EVE is always changing you need to keep on top of the trends and check patch notes for fit breaking changes.

TLDR; Fight more, moan less.

Someone previously mentioned Brave Newbies corporation.

I'm going to second this, we have a lot of fun blowing stuff up and getting blowed up.

Small gang and fleet PVP on the regular, and lots of opportunities to go out and solo pvp in our home system.

We have a lot of fun and welcome anyone willing to get exploded.

Is this some new Frog greeting? Delete to you too, kind sir. Many deletes to you all.