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The War in Fountain: The Goon Menace versus The Dogpile (war updates wooooo)

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-07-18 13:27:50 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Op opens prose with talk about "instigating good fights", proceeds to tell is all about 450 megathrons

LAWLZ

Goons going to some lengths to win the "popular vote" here by retreating to the "don't hit us, we're only little" doctrine of damage controlling the numbers they are up against.

Carry on fighting though.

Means you have less time to post about nerfing things you can not control through moronically huge corp/alliance/blues numbers

Yah I said it. Not seeing a problem myself. Very limited by the theoretical max dimensions of the box aren't you.



Ever try to break 60 spider tanking archons?
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#22 - 2013-07-18 15:54:26 UTC
Two questions.

1. Is english your primary language?
2. Do you honestly think the average player gives a crap about this overly wordy fantasy history you posted?


Roll

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Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-07-18 20:29:11 UTC
Thanks for this post, i loved the dramatic tone, while stil giving an update.

Ips: i never knew how the war started until now, thx
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2013-07-18 21:22:27 UTC
Nova Satar wrote:
is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring

It is.

Less so because our secret agents at CCP instigated them to add missile effects, so we can be entertained by the cool-ness of our torpedos in space.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-07-18 21:32:58 UTC
I was certain I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight what with it being so hot and humid here in the UK at the moment, but now I know I'll be able to drop off like a baby simply by re-reading the OP.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-07-18 21:36:28 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
I was certain I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight what with it being so hot and humid here in the UK at the moment, but now I know I'll be able to drop off like a baby simply by re-reading the OP.



The well known place that "almost" never sees the sun Lol

(joking of course, UK is a very nice place to make friends and have good fun)

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Aurenas Uitoh
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-07-18 21:51:09 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out


it is literally that simple
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-07-18 22:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
One thing has become apparant over the last month, which is that Pandemic legion is very much a paper tiger which has been living on it's past reputation.




PL works on a very different way of all other alliances, thinking they became a paper tiger because of a "thing" (zdat Revenant fight) is a silly assumption to make

The point being they were there for something that no one could expect escalation at that point a bit like zdat DBRB Titan jump finishing with half Eve fighting in the system, but actually happened, at some point it's better to step back and stop losses then bring more assets to the fight just to play little boys game and see who has the bigger gun.

Yes this fight could end differently but in the end what you need to think is -is that really worth at bottom line to have a nice battle report when active assets are far better of use than km's ?

Not sure this was the point of PL's leaders at that point but imho is a good not bad assumption. I'm quite sure PL has very strong teeth still but like to play on their terms, which is wise and by no means shows they're weaker now then they were before.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#29 - 2013-07-18 22:15:17 UTC
Aurenas Uitoh wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out

it is literally that simple

They're trying !! In Fountain !!!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-07-18 22:44:04 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring

It is.

Less so because our secret agents at CCP instigated them to add missile effects, so we can be entertained by the cool-ness of our torpedos in space.


I though it was boat's stories. I need to read up more...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2013-07-18 22:49:39 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Nova Satar wrote:
is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring

It is.

Less so because our secret agents at CCP instigated them to add missile effects, so we can be entertained by the cool-ness of our torpedos in space.


I though it was boat's stories. I need to read up more...

Boat has not led a siege fleet, as far as I can tell.

If I am not mistaken, our most prolific structure shooter now is Lyris Nairn, Chronicles of Narnia, Sky Captain of ~our heart~ etc etc

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-07-18 22:56:42 UTC
Tech isnt worthless. A small pos still nets you a good profit. Also those Dispro/Neo and Prom moons are ok.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#33 - 2013-07-18 23:01:15 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out




Highsec has the power to do this.

If every highsec "bear" rolled an alt and trained to high end frigs, destroyers, or bombers, and just went to goon space and started shooting stuff, this would be over.

And, as many would say, well deserved.

Jita will in fact be sending regards for this "emergent" play.

But I'm biased. Were it up to me, nullsec would be a playground of anarchy and the mere sighting of a super would bring hordes of "pubbies" trying to get in on a kill, like the last elephant being assailed by a swarm of ants.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-07-18 23:09:38 UTC
having the pubbie hordes invade our space would actually be p fun

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Upde
Upde Harris Industries
#35 - 2013-07-18 23:22:29 UTC
Andski wrote:
having the pubbie hordes invade our space would actually be p fun


and would see a healthy increase in my bank balance. come on hi-sec get your grabtastic amphibian piece of shite ases together and invade. All the hardware you need can be bought in jita 4-4.......................
Apocryphal Noise
Close Encounters of the EVE Kind
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2013-07-19 02:09:09 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Two questions.

1. Is english your primary language?
2. Do you honestly think the average player gives a crap about this overly wordy fantasy history you posted?


Roll



1. Yes. However, I wrote this in around 20 minutes and I know for a fact I changed tense at least 8 times. Also I'm bad at writing.
2. There are people who care about nullsec wars and politics who aren't directly involved in them, I know, I used to be one of them. Whether or not that's the "average player" doesn't concern me.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2013-07-19 03:02:45 UTC
Upde wrote:
Andski wrote:
having the pubbie hordes invade our space would actually be p fun

and would see a healthy increase in my bank balance. come on hi-sec get your grabtastic amphibian piece of shite ases together and invade. All the hardware you need can be bought in jita 4-4.......................

Sell TEST more rokhs. And capital modules, I hear they've been losing some "slowcats".

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-07-19 03:14:27 UTC
Nice update, keep em coming
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2013-07-19 08:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Aurenas Uitoh wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out

it is literally that simple

They're trying !! In Fountain !!!


goons need to be attackt in their main space in addition, VFK is the target, people should bring SBUs lets end this once and for all, you are unable to hold two fronts, with all of highsec going to VFK and the rest punshing down on you in the fountain area this will be a glorious end!

mark it in your calendar!
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-07-19 08:31:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Speedkermit Damo
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:
One thing has become apparant over the last month, which is that Pandemic legion is very much a paper tiger which has been living on it's past reputation.




PL works on a very different way of all other alliances, thinking they became a paper tiger because of a "thing" (zdat Revenant fight) is a silly assumption to make

The point being they were there for something that no one could expect escalation at that point a bit like zdat DBRB Titan jump finishing with half Eve fighting in the system, but actually happened, at some point it's better to step back and stop losses then bring more assets to the fight just to play little boys game and see who has the bigger gun.

Yes this fight could end differently but in the end what you need to think is -is that really worth at bottom line to have a nice battle report when active assets are far better of use than km's ?

Not sure this was the point of PL's leaders at that point but imho is a good not bad assumption. I'm quite sure PL has very strong teeth still but like to play on their terms, which is wise and by no means shows they're weaker now then they were before.


I think the recent supercap whelp has means that much of the aura of fear that surrounded PL has gone. Just as much as their lacklustre effort in Fountain. Is this because they are afraid of losing a fleet or two, and the resultant damage to their image?

Sure they are great when it comes to hotdropping ratters in Providence, but's that's hardly leet PvP.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.

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