Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I really don't understand why you guys do not attack the Tracking formula for the much larger problem of no scaling at range.

I've said this so many times and gotten nothing but positive feedback from players as well as solved the long standing issue with rails.

But instead of listening to common sense, you guys just play with damage and tracking numbers rather than hit the source of the problem which is the formula not accounting for a benefit to tracking at range.

Create a sig multiplier on every gun that get's modified at range to inflate the sig resolution of the guns. Vary the percents by gun type and size.

This allows rails to excel in the longer ranges but worse in the shorter ranges by having a larger base sig resolution, but much lower inflation rate, makes artillery alpha nice... if it can actually hit. It also removes some of the concern for webs because tracking can't cancel out sig resolution when webbed to near 0.

Your Talos example is a prime reason why this has to be done. 19% tracking difference for a massive damage increase on the ship will always get trumped with webs. But if you were to add signiture inflation to blasters, it means that they will be limited to certain ranges of effect that rails can always surpass even at the mid size level.



I wish you guys would just be honest and either say, "we can't do that" or "it would make to much lag" or something rather than continue to skirt the issue for the 11th year now. It's getting downright ridiculous.

If you have more questions about how it works, please, ask or go look at some of the other post. It's time to change this horrid formula.

What about optimal on Beams? They have the same optimal as Arty, but arty get more falloff. And Arty have volley advantage.

All beams need an optimal buff imo. You could take away a little something to compensate if you must (tracking, dps, whatever) but right now they are the worst at range of all long range weapon platforms. Which makes no sense as they are a friggin beam of light in a vacuum.

Agreed. At least rails have good range! Wait...

I don't understand. I thought range affected tracking..which is why you orbit close to a big ship to make it miss with its guns. Range reduces traversal velocity allowing you to track them...no?

Just accept that Rapid light missile launchers are the new HMLs and you will be happy.

First of all, thanks for looking into this. Personally, I think I have never used medium rails ever, so I can say nothing about them.
Arty changes sound fine to me.
But as an avid laser user, although the proposed changes to beams made me drool- don't you think 25% more damage is a little overpowered? Those beams will slice through shield tanks like a hot knife through butter.
I am not sure if I am delusional, but wasn't the talk about overhauling all of the weapon systems?
I ask because I would be a little disappointed if this was the final answer- a little more damage here, a little more RoF there.
I was hoping for changes that would give each weapon system its own distinct feel, like different overheat mechanics (charging lasers for higher burst damage or artillery for better optimal range for example), "continuous" beam damage etc.

I wish he wasn't right, but he is. The cap usage and fitting requirements are still too much compared to other options for Amarr hulls.

There will be very little benefit, if any, to use med beams in a given situation over T2 pulse with scorch.

What are 'ABCs'?

Attack Battlecruisers

Attack, not Assault

You pay for all that damage and tracking on beams with the crappy cap use.

If they were made to have less cap issues and lowered the damage or tracking to compensate they'd be treading on the toes of rails which would be boring, it's best if the weapon systems are as different to each as possible while still maintaining balance.

- Arties will have high alpha and selectable damage, but low dps and tracking.
- Lasers will have high dps, high tracking and instant ammo switching, but a fixed damage type and high cap use.
- Rails will have high dps and the longest range, middling cap use and tracking, and a fixed damage type.

I don't think high cap use is a problem, if they still need boosting then compensate in other areas (lower fitting) rather than taking away a unique aspect of the weapon system.