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Question on Standings

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Darius Onok
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-18 14:43:51 UTC
Hey guys,

so I have been trying to figure this out for a couple days and figured I would just give up and ask here. Can anyone explain to me how to find out how much standing you have with a group and how much more you need to reach better standing with them? I know where the standings tab is in the character sheet but it doesn't mean anything to me and there is no "Progression" bar that I can see.

I have been doing missions for Agents of the Minmatar Mining corporation for days and my standing with the corporation as a whole hasn't moved. It's been at 0.65 but my standing with the individual agents does seem to be getting better.

I'm just wondering what it will take for me to be able to progress to higher level missions. I feel like I have been running the same 6 missions for days and frankly it's a little boring.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#2 - 2013-07-18 14:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
I am not a guru, but a newbee on the same boat ;)

So, from what I know,
1. skills "Social" and "Connections" should help you out.
2. security missions gives more standings, than distribution missions; no idea about mining.
3. Often it takes time till you see the correct, actual value of corp or faction standing. Seems to me, that they do not refresh each x minutes, so sometimes you have to wait to see them grow.
4. Doing mission for one agent will not make your corp standing grow quicker, but you will get bigger rewards in ISK. So choose the 1 reasonable security agent and stay with him.
5. Each 16 missions you will get a special misssion from agent not far away - do it as this is the best way how to increase your factional standing. But alwayscome back to you normal agent after you finish it.
6. You can do tutorial missions for all three minmatar schools to get your faction standings close to 1. This way you can get level 2 missions from any minamtar agent. After you get good fitted and backed up by skills cruiser you can go do sisters of Eve mission arc . It will give you good boost in faction standings.
7. Level 3 missions will open up first after you get standings above 3, not above 2.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#3 - 2013-07-18 15:03:01 UTC
Darius Onok wrote:
I know where the standings tab is in the character sheet but it doesn't mean anything to me and there is no "Progression" bar that I can see.


Erh?

What's wrong with the exact figures that are stated in you character sheet?

A progress bar showing where you are between -10 and +10 wouldn't be of much use.

And since the game doesn't know what level of standings you are aiming for it would be the only thing such a bar could show.

If you want a list of the individual changes then r-click on any of the standings and select "Show Transactions".

Standings vs individual agent increases faster than standings vs his or her corporation but it's the latter that counts when shifting to a new agent for higher level missions (unless your standings vs the faction is higher of course).

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-07-18 15:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Darius Onok wrote:
I'm just wondering what it will take for me to be able to progress to higher level missions. I feel like I have been running the same 6 missions for days and frankly it's a little boring.


1.0 to do level 2
3.0 to do level 3
5.0 to do level 4

Relevant standings are the higher of the corp and faction standings (in this case Minmatar Mining and Minmatar Republic)

Train a level or 2 of Connections and you can pretty much skip level 1 missions as it's the modified standing that applies.
Toshiro Hasegawa
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2013-07-18 16:02:00 UTC
dont know if i can help or not

but i look at Show Info the Corp for whom i am working .. look at the Agent Tab and then Show Info on the Agent(s) i want to work for but cant yet..

History is the study of change.

Kyseth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-07-18 18:00:59 UTC
There is no blue or red "reputation progress bars" in EVE like...other games. Instead, your standings with a particular Faction/corporation/pilot are measured in a range from -10 (being they utterly hate you) to +10 (you are an internet spaceship messiah).

If you want to think about standings in a more "color coded" sense, you can see the same grades when you look at contact standings:

Red = Terrible (-10)
Orange = Bad (-5)
Gray/white = Neutral (0)
Light Blue = Good (5)
Dark Blue = Excellent (10)

That said, your character sheet will only show the numeric value (and a short version like saying "good" or "bad") because standings are gained or lost on the fractional level. Like everything else in EVE, raising standings takes time so that you don't just instantly become a beloved legend for bringing back 200 bear pelts in an hour... I mean pirate tags. Yes, pirate tags.

If you are just looking for access to higher level missions, and you don't care about what division they are in (security vs mining), I would also suggest security. It tends to be more exciting than distribution or mining and standings will raise faster.

As others have said, particular social skills will also raise your standings with factions. You could potentially have a standing of 1 with X Corp but with your Connections skill up, you have an *effective standing* of 2 or 3 which would net you access to higher level missions.
Darius Onok
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-07-18 21:36:13 UTC
Kyseth wrote:
There is no blue or red "reputation progress bars" in EVE like...other games. Instead, your standings with a particular Faction/corporation/pilot are measured in a range from -10 (being they utterly hate you) to +10 (you are an internet spaceship messiah).

If you want to think about standings in a more "color coded" sense, you can see the same grades when you look at contact standings:

Red = Terrible (-10)
Orange = Bad (-5)
Gray/white = Neutral (0)
Light Blue = Good (5)
Dark Blue = Excellent (10)

That said, your character sheet will only show the numeric value (and a short version like saying "good" or "bad") because standings are gained or lost on the fractional level. Like everything else in EVE, raising standings takes time so that you don't just instantly become a beloved legend for bringing back 200 bear pelts in an hour... I mean pirate tags. Yes, pirate tags.

If you are just looking for access to higher level missions, and you don't care about what division they are in (security vs mining), I would also suggest security. It tends to be more exciting than distribution or mining and standings will raise faster.

As others have said, particular social skills will also raise your standings with factions. You could potentially have a standing of 1 with X Corp but with your Connections skill up, you have an *effective standing* of 2 or 3 which would net you access to higher level missions.


Yeah, I have found that out. I started out doing mining missions because I was and still am sure that my ship is terribly fit for combat but as I got bored with staring at rocks I moved to Security and this missions are much more fun and pay more isk too. I'm trying to read more info about fitting ships so I am more competent at it while my skills train before I move to low sec or null sec. I don't plan to stay in High sec because I want to play the full game and don't mind losing ships to PVP but I at lesat want to have a shot at giving some hurt back so I am learning first.

Also yes the "Progression Bar" example was a bad one. I understood the -10 - +10 standing system when it came to concord security standing and I don't know why I had a brain fart and that didn't translate into corporate standing for me too.

This game is so much different from every other MMO game I have played and I so love that fact. It's just taking time for my brain to transition I guess.

Thanks for all the help guys.