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How can I avoid being sent into low-sec from hi-sec?

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Seiei Hana
Fall From Grace
#1 - 2011-11-09 21:13:47 UTC
I'm graduating from L2s and looking for an L3 agent. But I want to avoid low-sec at all costs.

How do agents decide where they send you? Is it based on their station's sec or proximity to low-sec systems?

Will a L3 agent in 0.9 send me into 0.4 one jump away?

I've tried two 0.5 agents already and they both sent me to a neighboring 0.4.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#2 - 2011-11-09 21:31:03 UTC
Now this is just a rough estimate, but it seems that the target location for missions depends on the number of active players in the respective system, with the closest systems checked first. I assume that High Sec systems are checked before Low Sec systems since I once had an agent that preferred the neighboring High Sec system over the neighboring Low Sec system, though there might be some random element as well. So, if those systems are "full", you are sent further away or into Low Sec since they are usually quite empty.

Also, some missions seem to always be in the agents´ home system no matter its population.

For your purposes, I do not recall being sent further than 2 jumps for a security mission, so any agent 3 or more jumps away from any Low Sec system should be quite safe for you.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2011-11-09 21:43:00 UTC
If it's next door, it's fair game. Two jumps and it gets less likely but it does happen. Three and I've never had it happen in an L4 (security mission).
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#4 - 2011-11-09 22:01:07 UTC
Indeed, the answer is location. Try to find an agent buried in empire space. 3 jumps is the longest I've been sent for a combat mission.

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Spineker
#5 - 2011-11-09 22:20:22 UTC
I have been sent 4 jumps through highsec to a low sec or with the same mission 3 jumps 2 through low sec. So I think 3 is the magic number but if the agent is sending you to a system it doesn't care if you have to jump 3 times through low to keep it at 3 jumps max. If that made any sense haha.

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2011-11-09 22:32:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Look at a map. Look for an agent in a constellation that doesn't have any lowsec systems.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2011-11-09 22:44:06 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Look at a map. Look for an agent in a constellation that doesn't have any lowsec systems.


The constellation trick doesn't seem to be foolproof.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2011-11-09 23:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Look at a map. Look for an agent in a constellation that doesn't have any lowsec systems.


The constellation trick doesn't seem to be foolproof.

*shrug* alright. Seems to work for me then is all I can state. Probably doesn't hurt at least, as it tends to put you further away from lowsec.
Seiei Hana
Fall From Grace
#9 - 2011-11-09 23:55:56 UTC
Thanks all. Seems everyone's mileage varies, which answers my question.
Kilobar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-10 00:15:56 UTC
So, if you see my sec status it is obvious that I want you to come to low sec so someone like me can hunt you. The non troll answer though is to avoid accepting missions from agents close to low sec. I used to run SOE lvl 4s in gicodel and never got sent to low sec.

At some point you may want to consider a move to low sec because just about everything is more lucrative and it makes the game fun. But remember to create multiple safes in systems you frequent and bounce them when hostiles come into system. Also you will want to create insta undock safes that are off grid from station and do this for every station you dock in.

Fly safe and remember that eve is just a game
Seiei Hana
Fall From Grace
#11 - 2011-11-10 00:20:02 UTC
Kilobar wrote:
So, if you see my sec status it is obvious that I want you to come to low sec so someone like me can hunt you.

Fly safe and remember that eve is just a game


Thanks! I made the mistake of flying my newbie self in a decked out Raven into a 0.4, precisely because I was sick of being scared. And I quickly got blown up. Was that you? :P

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2011-11-10 01:27:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
Seiei Hana wrote:
Someday I'll be ready to play with the sharks. For now, I'll remain carebear.


LOL. It's the responsibility of us carebears to go play with those 'sharks', they feel unloved and neglected if we don't. And there is little worse than a neglected-feeling wannabe PvPer moaning in these forums "I'm a fail. CCP fix this! CCP fix that! So I can yell 'Yo ho ho', 'yaawwwrrr', and 'moar' and generally scare ppl."

After all eve exists solely for the purpose of carebears and their associated industry, and those wannabe PvPers are only out there to break things so people have to buy the stuff we gather, mine, harvest, build. So it's up to all of us to help those wannbe PvPers so that they can, in turn, help us. Once you've got s little more experience and skills do get out and try stuff in lowsec / nullsec .... once you stop dying too often it's actually a bundle of fun.

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Aggressive Nutmeg
#13 - 2011-11-10 02:35:11 UTC
I keep a mission log in a database of all missions I run. One of the stats I record is 'jumps to mission'.

To date the stats are:

0 jumps = 43%
1 jump = 48%
2 jumps = 9%

I've never been sent more than 2 jumps in the L4 security missions I run. Don't know if it's just the agents I use but that's my personal experience.

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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#14 - 2011-11-10 12:25:19 UTC
Why are you scared of low sec?
Pappy McGee
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-10 13:18:50 UTC
Just find a system you like, plant yourself there, and start running missions. Don't lose any sleep over what's next door. I did missions in a .5 system for ages, with a lowsec system just a jump away; I'd get missions there occasionally, and either decline them (if they were long and I knew I couldn't do it), or accept them, and roll out in a navy slicer or something similar. Most of the time the lowsec system was empty anyway, or populated by more mission runners, or some semi-afk PvPer parked atop the station.
Junior Frog
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-10 15:52:44 UTC
I can't prove it, but I think in some cases the agent can be 1 or 2 jumps away, in the same constellation with losec systems, and NEVER send you out. I did a few weeks missioning for SOE in Simela and never once was sent into the losec portions. Also, the closest storyline agent is in that same constellation, but instead I was getting my offers for the agent in Sheroo. IMO they've been manually tweaked by CCP. Just a guess though.

Jump

Swordfingers
The Swollen Horse Society
#17 - 2011-11-10 19:07:25 UTC
I say, go to lowsec. Really, it's much more fun and a little more lucrative. If you think that you get ganked the instant you jump to lowsec, then start small. Find some deep, quiet lowsec system with a L2 agent and do some missions for him in an assault frig, until you get used to it, then jump to a BC and finally a battleship. Personally, I recomend going deep in lowsec, because there aren't as many pirates waiting for easy kill on frequented border gates and less l33t pvpers huting lost newbs. It's more of a PITA logistics-wise, but it's safer.