Warfare & Tactics

Hello and thank you everyone for taking the time read and reply to this post should you choose to do such. I'm here asking a question about locking and exactly what makes it go so fast. The other day I happened to jump through a gate(I hear it deposites you randomly)and boom, next thing I know I'm dead. I was on my way to see the Titan monument and like an idiot I flew my Dramiel all decked out for pure speed. I figured if I went fast enough I could escape any situation. I was unfortunate enough to get deposited right next to a ship though I can't quite remember what. It used drones and so I activated my MWD and put my little bugger in full throttle. It was almost instant. I had a web and a warp disruption on me virtually as soon as I uncloaked. My question is, how did this happen and how can I prevent someone from locking me so fast? Its really annoying because I can't seem to lock anything that fast even with gear to assist.


I also apologize if I've posted this in the wrong section. Recent player and recent to the forums so I'm not sure where the Q and A for this stuff is really despite a little looking around.

Turning on your MWD makes it MUCH quicker for someone to target you. Assuming this was lowsec, you would have had a better shot at just warping out, assuming you had nanos and not a bunch of overdrives.... its remarkably hard to catch fast aligning frigates in low. There is a risk of someone with loads of sebos/remote sebos locking you in time, but its actually quite rare, we just think its common because no one talks about the hundred times they warped off, only about that one time they got locked in time.

Even in null, in a bubble, trying to burn away is usually less likely to succeed then crashing gate.

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Nothing can save you from an instalock camp other than luck tbh..

If you're in a cov ops ship your chances are better but still not great.

depends on your latency but you should be able to cloak before the locks come in

yes you can, but you need to be clever:

you can get a neutral alt in a maulus with 4 damps using scan res scripts. whichever ship is being scan res boosted for the insta lock is your target.

random example: stiletto has .7s lock time on a capsule, .5s on a frig, .4s on a destroyer, .3s on a cruiser, .2s on a BC, with 4019 scan res.

maulus can damp at 150km depending on how you fit it (garbage fit to **** up gate camps from distance).
4 damps with scan res damp scripts
stiletto with 4019 scan res. now has 389 scan res. 6.7s to lock a capsule.

just tested this on tranquility off gates and undock, it is untrue; once your ship initiates warp, you are vulnerable to locking--both off gates and undocks. gang warp or not

That's interesting, I've done that to corp members before when they were being station camped in a lowsec system and I got them out by doing that. Maybe whenever I've done it, the station campers were all tabbed out on the chive or something.

That and there was a case where 2 blockade runners jumped through a gate, they decloaked at the same time, but the one cloaked right away, while the other one didn't cloak for 3ish seconds, but when i was spamming ctrl+click on my overview to lock him, it kept saying he was invulnerable or something to that matter. I attributed it to the fleet warp, but I guess it could have been lag or something.

There's a couple of Gnosis fits banging about at the moment which produce instalock...the moment you load grid. Had the joy of extricating my Cheetah from this when I jumped a gate and started getting shot and couldn't activate my AB or invul because, apparently, I was still cloaked.

Still, got back to gate. <3 low sig.

But aside from this un-petitionable nonsense (oh, how I wish I had Fraps) you can often do OK with a covops. Every so often though, you'll find some fool in a legion with massive remote SeBo fluffing from his alts, and it goes teats up.

Oh, sorry, I remember: they "nerfed" remote SeBo's to reduce the lameness factor of noobs losing ships to instalock HIC camps on lowsec gates. Silly me, I keep forgetting.

First let me tell you what most likely happened. You got insta locked by an interceptor(implants and boosters). The interceptor had drones assigned to him by other ships, a dual webbing ship was also there, I am guessing a rapier.
Your best bet would have been to re approach the gate with microwarpdrive on and overheated!
Depending on how big the camp was, a stealth bomber may make it thru or better yet a t3 with nullifier and covert op