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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2011-11-09 22:30:18 UTC
It must have been an impressively stupid petition to get him banned.
Delegado Cero
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2011-11-09 22:32:19 UTC
Ban DHD
But do it when he does something really stupid, not because of this. Free him so we can look forward to that massive troll that went to far.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2011-11-09 22:34:19 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
It must have been an impressively stupid petition to get him banned.


This was the petition, tell me which part is stupid.

DurrHurrDurr wrote:
It has come to my attention that a Game Master known as "GM Thunder" has recently altered the topic text of the public channel "recruitment" to reflect a change of policy disallowing scamming and fraudulent activities to occur within the channel, or to be used as a channel with which to find targets for such activities.

It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other EVE Online players, that this is an encroachment upon the activities of players that use the recruitment channel.

Scamming has long been part of the EVE culture and has long been a promotional tool by CCP to draw new players to the game. The permission of such activities is a display of the truly sandbox nature of the harsh, hypercapitalistic EVE universe and the recent rule change in the recruitment channel encroaches on the true sandbox that the game provides for its players.

From TenTonHammer to PCGamer, the proliferation of EVE Online scams in gaming media has been a powerful driving force for EVE's current popularity. The draw of a true sandbox where your actions have legitimate consequences is a very powerful niche that isn't filled by any other game, and that includes the dangers of interacting with players on a regular basis. From the fall of BoB at the hands of a disgruntled director to the massive thefts of iterations of large EVE banks and investments to supercapital holding scams, the scamming culture is very deep-rooted and an important part of EVE Online.

Additionally, this change of rules presents a considerable workload increase on GMs as well as issues with burden of proof; cases where recruitment is used as a "hunting ground" will be exceptionally difficult to prove and even more difficult to enforce punishment for the use of such channels.

I would like this petition to be escalated to a senior GM who can reverse this recent change and, if the change is not reverted, respond to this petition with a clarification and justification as to why this new rule has been placed.

The full text for the recruitment channel's topic will be pasted below for easy reference.



[18:16:37] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility. An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.
Shad0wsFury
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2011-11-09 22:34:36 UTC
Durrhurrdurr is a good man, and his father was a good man, he should be freed.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#65 - 2011-11-09 22:35:15 UTC
All is not lost.

His bots are all still running.

Thank God for small miracles.

Mr Epeen Cool
Belthizaar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2011-11-09 22:35:26 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
It must have been an impressively stupid petition to get him banned.


Full contents of DHD's single petition he sent:

Quote:

It has come to my attention that a Game Master known as "GM Thunder" has recently altered the topic text of the public channel "recruitment" to reflect a change of policy disallowing scamming and fraudulent activities to occur within the channel, or to be used as a channel with which to find targets for such activities.

It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other EVE Online players, that this is an encroachment upon the activities of players that use the recruitment channel.

Scamming has long been part of the EVE culture and has long been a promotional tool by CCP to draw new players to the game. The permission of such activities is a display of the truly sandbox nature of the harsh, hypercapitalistic EVE universe and the recent rule change in the recruitment channel encroaches on the true sandbox that the game provides for its players.

From TenTonHammer to PCGamer, the proliferation of EVE Online scams in gaming media has been a powerful driving force for EVE's current popularity. The draw of a true sandbox where your actions have legitimate consequences is a very powerful niche that isn't filled by any other game, and that includes the dangers of interacting with players on a regular basis. From the fall of BoB at the hands of a disgruntled director to the massive thefts of iterations of large EVE banks and investments to supercapital holding scams, the scamming culture is very deep-rooted and an important part of EVE Online.

Additionally, this change of rules presents a considerable workload increase on GMs as well as issues with burden of proof; cases where recruitment is used as a "hunting ground" will be exceptionally difficult to prove and even more difficult to enforce punishment for the use of such channels.

I would like this petition to be escalated to a senior GM who can reverse this recent change and, if the change is not reverted, respond to this petition with a clarification and justification as to why this new rule has been placed.

The full text for the recruitment channel's topic will be pasted below for easy reference.



[18:16:37] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.



They banned him for this.
NearNihil
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#67 - 2011-11-09 22:37:44 UTC
Obligatory "FREE DHD" post.
Djehngo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2011-11-09 22:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Djehngo
So a GM makes a ill-considered decision, DurrHurrDurr writes a reasonable criticism and gets banned for it? Is that more or less the straight of it?

Clearly reasoned criticism of CCP employees is a clear and present danager to EVE as we know it, the people giving constructive feedback will be banned and the toys shall be cast from the pram Ugh
TheGodofRock
Fuschia Frog
#69 - 2011-11-09 22:39:05 UTC
FREE DHD
thatboydc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2011-11-09 22:44:18 UTC
FREE DHD TURBONIGGERS
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#71 - 2011-11-09 22:45:22 UTC
Belthizaar wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
It must have been an impressively stupid petition to get him banned.


Full contents of DHD's single petition he sent:

Quote:

It has come to my attention that a Game Master known as "GM Thunder" has recently altered the topic text of the public channel "recruitment" to reflect a change of policy disallowing scamming and fraudulent activities to occur within the channel, or to be used as a channel with which to find targets for such activities.

It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other EVE Online players, that this is an encroachment upon the activities of players that use the recruitment channel.

Scamming has long been part of the EVE culture and has long been a promotional tool by CCP to draw new players to the game. The permission of such activities is a display of the truly sandbox nature of the harsh, hypercapitalistic EVE universe and the recent rule change in the recruitment channel encroaches on the true sandbox that the game provides for its players.

From TenTonHammer to PCGamer, the proliferation of EVE Online scams in gaming media has been a powerful driving force for EVE's current popularity. The draw of a true sandbox where your actions have legitimate consequences is a very powerful niche that isn't filled by any other game, and that includes the dangers of interacting with players on a regular basis. From the fall of BoB at the hands of a disgruntled director to the massive thefts of iterations of large EVE banks and investments to supercapital holding scams, the scamming culture is very deep-rooted and an important part of EVE Online.

Additionally, this change of rules presents a considerable workload increase on GMs as well as issues with burden of proof; cases where recruitment is used as a "hunting ground" will be exceptionally difficult to prove and even more difficult to enforce punishment for the use of such channels.

I would like this petition to be escalated to a senior GM who can reverse this recent change and, if the change is not reverted, respond to this petition with a clarification and justification as to why this new rule has been placed.

The full text for the recruitment channel's topic will be pasted below for easy reference.



[18:16:37] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.



They banned him for this.


Yep, pretty stupid, but also not the reason for the ban.

Swamping the petition system with this would be the cause of the ban, so you already know exactly who got him banned and why.

Not the brightest move.

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Silk75
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
#72 - 2011-11-09 22:45:50 UTC
/Brick Tamlan

WHAT ARE WE ALL SHOUTING ABOUT, FREE DURRHURRDURR?!?
SilentMajority
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#73 - 2011-11-09 22:46:29 UTC
If you won't free DHD, at least ban the rest of B0RT and disband TEST
Xutech
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2011-11-09 22:47:02 UTC
Free Saint DHD
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#75 - 2011-11-09 22:48:37 UTC
SilentMajority wrote:
disband TEST

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Fader Bane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#76 - 2011-11-09 22:49:21 UTC
This will not stand.
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#77 - 2011-11-09 22:49:53 UTC
I really do love Durr...

I play EVE every day! Follow me at http://www.twitch.tv/matthershman
Belthizaar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2011-11-09 22:49:58 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Belthizaar wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
It must have been an impressively stupid petition to get him banned.


Full contents of DHD's single petition he sent:

Quote:

It has come to my attention that a Game Master known as "GM Thunder" has recently altered the topic text of the public channel "recruitment" to reflect a change of policy disallowing scamming and fraudulent activities to occur within the channel, or to be used as a channel with which to find targets for such activities.

It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other EVE Online players, that this is an encroachment upon the activities of players that use the recruitment channel.

Scamming has long been part of the EVE culture and has long been a promotional tool by CCP to draw new players to the game. The permission of such activities is a display of the truly sandbox nature of the harsh, hypercapitalistic EVE universe and the recent rule change in the recruitment channel encroaches on the true sandbox that the game provides for its players.

From TenTonHammer to PCGamer, the proliferation of EVE Online scams in gaming media has been a powerful driving force for EVE's current popularity. The draw of a true sandbox where your actions have legitimate consequences is a very powerful niche that isn't filled by any other game, and that includes the dangers of interacting with players on a regular basis. From the fall of BoB at the hands of a disgruntled director to the massive thefts of iterations of large EVE banks and investments to supercapital holding scams, the scamming culture is very deep-rooted and an important part of EVE Online.

Additionally, this change of rules presents a considerable workload increase on GMs as well as issues with burden of proof; cases where recruitment is used as a "hunting ground" will be exceptionally difficult to prove and even more difficult to enforce punishment for the use of such channels.

I would like this petition to be escalated to a senior GM who can reverse this recent change and, if the change is not reverted, respond to this petition with a clarification and justification as to why this new rule has been placed.

The full text for the recruitment channel's topic will be pasted below for easy reference.



[18:16:37] EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted.No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.



They banned him for this.


Yep, pretty stupid, but also not the reason for the ban.

Swamping the petition system with this would be the cause of the ban, so you already know exactly who got him banned and why.

Not the brightest move.


He sent it once. You're wrong. You can only send 3 petitions at any one time, if you dont believe me, try it yourself.
Rylee
Unlimited 2.0
Infinite Pew
#79 - 2011-11-09 22:51:59 UTC
FREE DHD!!

Time to kick the tires and light the fires!
K Suri
Doomheim
#80 - 2011-11-09 22:52:12 UTC
lolz. love the butthurt testies. delicious.

Quote:
No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam.

Quote:
As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.


Reading the new MOTD suggests this was actually aimed at Goons. hahahaha.

Collateral damage. Big smile