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Pentaboxing missions and greedygoblin's bet

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-07-17 13:16:03 UTC
Smark Shardani wrote:
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Let me see if I understand the failcascade here:

1. You're reading GreedyGoblin's blog
2. You're trying to argue with him
3. After trying to argue with him and obviously failing, you come here and post a challenge we all know he won't have the guts to accept.

Did I miss anything? :)

Also:

Zhilia Mann wrote:
You're right, he's wrong, but I can't help but think of this.


This :)


+1 to this. No one cares if you feel bad that you lost an argument to Gev, or your feelings are hurt. Just give me your stuff and be done with it.


GG alt, this is how he got the 400M isk

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Arkanon Nerevar
UK Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2013-07-17 14:30:46 UTC
so your saying gevlon goblin is a sad pitiful grossly patronising figure who wilfully ploughs on with his painful to read self inflating ego trips all just for a scrap of attention??
my god
new information for someone whos never read eve news 24 or these forums I guess

Trust Not in God, but Have Faith in Antimatter

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-07-17 15:09:30 UTC
I don't read that blog but I did check out the linked posting.

Using a cheap fit marauder + logi is a great defense against ganking. It's also inefficient for the reasons mention in the comments and here.

I don't know that particular blogger, but I'll bet he's mostly a PVP'r. One thing I've learned in the game: great PVP skills don't always translate to good PVE skills. To put more bluntly, I've watch more than one ACE PVP jock blow up in a DED Plex because he was SURE PVE was nothing lol.

Like this one guy who assured me that his ACTIVE TANK legion could easily tank a Blood Raider naval Shipyard solo. I told him it couldn't. Do you know what that guy said to me? He said "I think my killboard stats prove I know how to play this game" lol.

That ship went pop in about 10 seconds... and i never let him live it down.

I get that feel from that blogger. In EVE, PVE and PVP are different mindsets. Their is some overlap, but imo not much.
Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#24 - 2013-07-17 15:52:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:

I don't know that particular blogger, but I'll bet he's mostly a PVP'r.


What have you done!!?? Now he's gonna quote you for the rest of eternity to prove his point that ganking countless miners makes him one of the best pvp'ers in the game. Lol
Arkanon Nerevar
UK Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2013-07-17 17:56:44 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I don't read that blog but I did check out the linked posting.
I don't know that particular blogger, but I'll bet he's mostly a PVP'r.
.


he is not in any way a PVP'r, hes not a PVE'r, hes not even a player

hes some ex-wow player who apparently "conquered the financial system" in wow, believing himself to be the worlds greatest gamer from that he joined eve to write trashy articles about how people should always listen to his advice because he has so much world of warcraft gold (no im NOT joking).

his latest piece of "wow-genius" is some plan ordering nullsec alliances to tax all their members a independent monthly amount of a few billion for the sole reason of being in a null alliance (this is alas also NOT a joke) the full details of this master plan can be found on EN24

Trust Not in God, but Have Faith in Antimatter

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#26 - 2013-07-17 19:45:18 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFFr91atHqE

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Toria Nynys
Surly Dinos
#27 - 2013-07-18 01:49:11 UTC
I think you owe me some ISK for getting me to read that blog. I think it gave me herpes.

Dual boxing the same mission in a Kronos and logi, that's enough fail to stop reading right there. The guy has no clue. Two Amageddons spider tanking would more than double that DPS at any range over 16km while being cheaper, requiring less SP to fly and still having the same gank resistance advantage without being worth ganking in the first place.
Ayla Crenshaw
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-07-18 06:22:11 UTC
I'm still wet behind the ears in many aspects but when I read Gevlon's blog something felt horribly wrong. Maybe it was the Marauder, maybe the logi, maybe the choice of hunting area or conviction the same can be done with two T1 Battleships.

Disregarding Gevlon's self-perceived greatness, I'd like to point out there are a ton of threads littering Missions and Complexes forum asking for optimal missioning setup. None of them have any definite answers backed by statistical data and I think I've read most if not all of them.

So OP, how about instead of crying that Gevlon refused your bet, counter him with posting your optimal moneymaking fit right here - you won't get isk from him but you'll be a credit to community and won't come off as a braggart troll. Put your time where your mouth is, so to say.

But please do limit yourself to double-account setup, not everyone can pentabox and it's the only way for your idea to be competetive to Gevlon's.
Liquid'Courage
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#29 - 2013-07-18 12:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Liquid'Courage
Ayla Crenshaw wrote:
I'm still wet behind the ears in many aspects but when I read Gevlon's blog something felt horribly wrong. Maybe it was the Marauder, maybe the logi, maybe the choice of hunting area or conviction the same can be done with two T1 Battleships.

Disregarding Gevlon's self-perceived greatness, I'd like to point out there are a ton of threads littering Missions and Complexes forum asking for optimal missioning setup. None of them have any definite answers backed by statistical data and I think I've read most if not all of them.

So OP, how about instead of crying that Gevlon refused your bet, counter him with posting your optimal moneymaking fit right here - you won't get isk from him but you'll be a credit to community and won't come off as a braggart troll. Put your time where your mouth is, so to say.

But please do limit yourself to double-account setup, not everyone can pentabox and it's the only way for your idea to be competetive to Gevlon's.

I laughed pretty hard. This tells me that you have no idea how to blitz missions efficiently and effectively.

It's actually not entirely about the fit, it's about how you do it.

EDIT - I'm sure if you offered the OP 10 billion isk to make the video, he'd do it. And the knowledge you'd personally gain from watching it would be worth much more than 10 billion isk to you.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#30 - 2013-07-18 15:17:32 UTC
I felt I just had to add - in addition to Gevlons post, a previous post stated that he would be changing high sec missioning forever! This was that change... Shocking... It's some pointless post telling us some stuff we already know mixed with some stuff more useless than a big blank space in the post.

Just do what I do. Try to encourage him to do clearly stupid stuff. Like I'm 100% behind him matching isk donations to TEST. And I'm behind him getting a titan and taking it into battle.

Apparently he doesn't read the forums btw, because the fact that everyone hates him is because we're all trolling morons and slackers (according to his rule of ranking people into 4 tiers of which he is the highest tier and we are the lowest) so he won't see any of this.

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KwarK uK
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#31 - 2013-07-19 12:54:24 UTC
Everything goblin writes is gloriously wrong. He's pretty incredible in that regard, a monkey with a typewriter would be right more often, he's somehow hit a sweetspot where he's wrong more often than he would be if he just made random claims. Yesterday's blog included a straight denial of the existence of opportunity cost, apparently whenever anyone does anything you could potentially have done yourself you've been dumb and given up isk.

Regarding putting my money where my mouth is, if you guys can collectively raise the isk for the bet I'd be willing to do it including posting a guide of how I did it. I believe I make at least 1b/hr missioning so it'd be a solid investment to have me post a guide. Collectively pledge amounts, I'll arrange **** with Chribba if enough people are interested, we both send isk to Chribba and if I don't come through with the goods then you get your isk doubled and if I do then you now have the guide so you can make the isk back easily. But short of that, I shan't bother, I don't work for free. Say 25b bet for the guide and an hour of fraps.

You should vote for KwarK for a lowsec presence on CSM8. It's a good idea. I'd do it! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213851

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#32 - 2013-07-19 14:03:58 UTC
I don't think you'll get the pledges. The problem is only Gevlon is stupid enough to think he is right. The rest of us know it's very possible and would simply be throwing money away.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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