Skill Discussions

I have asked on chat and have been getting several mixed answers probably cause of trolls, I am trying to figure out if there are any lvl 2 skill books or is it mostly just grinding asteroids I read on the site itself an says that lvl 1 is the only lvl required to use a skillbook but thats not anywhere a definative answer :/

did you not do the tutorial missions?

i remember one of the first things the game taught me was how to put skills in my skill queue....this was before I was even aware of what skillbooks were.

To be fair, I thought you were asking an entirely different question. Sometimes taking the time to write things out properly can go a long way to getting the help you're asking for.

I believe what I said was more then self explanatory if you couldnt comprehend the concept I was grasping at I believe WoW would be your mmo; I dont believe I could have made the subject any clearer. Takari obviously understood, an wetheir I was asking what you percieve as to what I was asking it shouldnt matter what you stated in the beginning had no place in this thread for future reference if you dont fully comprehend the concept and wish to make a remark as such I wouldnt. I do apologize as work leaves me very over edge and can come off as rude I do not need any unecessary arguments as that seems commonplace on this forum.

Eh. I think you just told me to go back to WoW, which is kind of incredible, but ok.

Look, I was pretty darn sure you were asking if you needed to learn certain skills to unlock a second tier of skills and was all set out to type a nice long response. Yes, in fact, you do need to have certain skills to unlock others and be able to plug them in; the skills you need to do so are listed under the prerequisites tab for every skill in the game. If it's empty or green, you can inject the skill. Otherwise, you need to train to the specified level.

But that apparently wasn't what you were asking in the first place. How anyone managed to discern that is beyond me.

Bottom line: I'm actually inclined to be helpful. In fact, most people here are, even if we're prone to bicker amongst ourselves. But you have to help me help you by asking better questions. Just throwing it out there for the future. Glad you got it sorted.

You seem quite easily offended, but I do feel obligated to tell you your question was hard to understand. I do not however believe it was do to poor english, but more due to confusion over the miss information you had been given.

I am glad you have got it sorted, but thought you might benefit from a simple break down of how the skill system in EVE works.

There are two different levels for skills, which I believe is the source for some of your confusion. There are the basic skills levels which are start at 0 when you inject a skill book and can be trained up to level 5. All that is required to take a skill to level 5 is to have the skill book injected, and spend the time training it, you can que up several skills, and/or several levels of the same skill provided the last skill trained starts in less than 24 hours. For example que shield operation to train to level 2, it can be followed by the same skill again to level 3, then level 4, etc. max level of all skills is 5. As a new player you are far better off training many skills to level 3 or 4 before training any to 5. training from level 4 to level 5 generally takes much longer than training from level 0 to level 4. For example having all shield skills to 4 will give you much better shields than having shield operation to 5 with no other shield skills trained.

The other skill level is referred to as skill rank. This represents how difficult the skill is to train. A rank 3 skill takes longer to train per level than a rank 2 skill. Also a rank 3 skill will require a rank 2 skill trained to a prerequisite level before the skill book can be injected. These prerequisites can be seen by using the show info on the skill book.

Another matter to pay attention too is your attributes. Different skills use different attributes to determine training speed, i.e. how many SP per minute you will gain while training that skill. For example basic skills like engineering, shield operation, capacitor skills, mechanic skills, etc, use a primary attribute of intelligence with a secondary attribute of memory. What this means is by remaping your attributes to maximum intelligence, with remainder points going into memory you will train these skills at the fastest possible speed. However piloting skills use a primary attribute of perception with a secondary attribute of willpower. So if you are remaped for intelligence/memory your training of piloting skills will be much slower. Attributes can be further enhanced by using implants that grant attribute bonuses up to +5. it is up to you to decide if you want balanced attributes to train any skills at a about the same speed, or to remap to either intelligence/memory or perception/willpower and focus on skills supported by those attributes for a while, them remap to the other to focus on those skills. There are many many different strategies for skill training.

The best advice I can give you is not to get to worried about it. when you are just learning skill training times are so short mistakes, or changes in direction do not cost you much. It is when you get to training skills that take 30 days or more that attribute remaps really start to matter. Save your remaps for when you really need them, do not waste them. Once they are gone you only get 1 per year.

i just quote it from someone else in another thread