Player Features and Ideas Discussion

so an idea to expand on the existing covert ops ships using a new hull size.
its role is to be a Covert Support Ship, ie clokey warp logi.
when i had the idea i thought that its implication would be OP. however these ships are no etana super ship
these ships are ment to use small shield or armor reps. be able to out rep a T1 logi fig but not out rep a T1 logi cruser
a comfortable mid point that wont brake the bank.
but being a T2 ship a secondary lesser role should also be important, as suck the gallente and caldari bonus projected ECCM and ammar and minmatar bonus remote sensor boosters.

the ship slot lay out and fitting/cap have been revised on post #14 link blow
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3366221#post3366221



Minmatar Covert Support Ship

Minmatar Destroyer Skill Bonuses:
10% increase to Shield Bonus of Shield Transporters per level
130% increase to Shield Transfer Range of Shield Transporters per level

Covert Support Ship Skill Bonuses:
10% reduction to Activation Cost of Shield Transporters per level
20% reduction to CPU Usage of Cloaking Devices per level
3% increase to Max Targeting Range Bonus of Remote Sensor Boosters per level
3% increase to Scan Resolution Bonus of Remote Sensor Boosters per level

Notes: Can fit covert ops cloaks, covert cynosural field generators

Slot layout: 5 H, 4 M, 4 L, 1 turrets, 1 launchers.
Fittings: 45 PWG, 240 CPU.
Defense (shields / shield recharge time (s) / armor / hull): 850 / 625 / 800 / 800.
Shield Resistance EM 10 / TH 20 / KIN 40 / EXP 50
Armor Resistance EM 70 / TH 35 / KIN 25 / EXP 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 415 / 285 s / 1.45.
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 255 / 2.9 / 1650000 / 6.63 s.
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 39km / 515 / 6.
Sensor strength: 9 Ladar.
Signature radius: 55.




Amarr Covert Support Ship

Amarr Destroyer Skill Bonuses:
10% increase to Armor Hp Repaired of Armor Repair Projectors per level
130% increase to Optimal Range of Armor Repair Projectors per level

Covert Support Ship Skill Bonuses:
10% reduction to Activation Cost of Armor Repair Projectors per level
20% reduction to CPU Usage of Cloaking Devices per level
3% increase to Max Targeting Range Bonus of Remote Sensor Boosters per level
3% increase to Scan Resolution Bonus of Remote Sensor Boosters per level

Notes: Can fit covert ops cloaks, covert cynosural field generators

Slot layout: 5 H, 3 M, 5 L, 1 turrets, 1 launchers.
Fittings: 60 PWG, 155 CPU.
Defense (shields / shield recharge time (s) / armor / hull): 750 / 625 / 950 / 850.
Shield Resistance EM 0 / TH 20 / KIN 40 / EXP 60
Armor Resistance EM 50 / TH 35 / KIN 25 / EXP 30
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 550 / 355 s / 1.55.
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240 / 2.87 / 1700000 / 6.76 s.
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 49km / 490 / 6.
Sensor strength: 10 Radar.
Signature radius: 61.




Gallente Covert Support Ship

Gallente Destroyer Skill Bonuses:
10% increase to Armor Hp Repaired of Armor Repair Projectors per level
130% increase to Optimal Range of Armor Repair Projectors per level

Covert Support Ship Skill Bonuses:
10% reduction to Activation Cost of Armor Repair Projectors per level
20% reduction to CPU Usage of Cloaking Devices per level
3% increase to Radar Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Gravimetric Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Ladar Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Magnetometric Strength of Projected ECCMs per level

Notes: Can fit covert ops cloaks, covert cynosural field generators

Slot layout: 5 H, 4 M, 4 L, 2 turrets, 0 launchers.
Fittings: 58 PWG, 175 CPU.
Defense (shields / shield recharge time (s) / armor / hull): 800 / 625 / 850 / 950.
Shield Resistance EM 0 / TH 20 / KIN 50 / EXP 50
Armor Resistance EM 50 / TH 35 / KIN 45 / EXP 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 530 / 315 s / 1.68.
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 245 / 2.85 / 1600000 / 6.32 s.
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 45km / 465 / 6.
Sensor strength: 11 Magnetometric.
Signature radius: 67.




Caldari Covert Support Ship

Caldari Destroyer Skill Bonuses:
10% increase to Shield Bonus of Shield Transporters per level
130% increase to Shield Transfer Range of Shield Transporters per level

Covert Support Ship Skill Bonuses:
10% reduction to Activation Cost of Shield Transporters per level
20% reduction to CPU Usage of Cloaking Devices per level
3% increase to Ladar Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Gravimetric Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Radar Strength of Projected ECCMs per level
3% increase to Magnetometric Strength of Projected ECCMs per level

Notes: Can fit covert ops cloaks, covert cynosural field generators

Slot layout: 5 H, 5 M, 3 L, 0 turrets, 2 launchers.
Fittings: 43 PWG, 260 CPU.
Defense (shields / shield recharge time (s) / armor / hull): 950 / 625 / 750 / 750.
Shield Resistance EM 0 / TH 30 / KIN 40 / EXP 50
Armor Resistance EM 50 / TH 55 / KIN 25 / EXP 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 500 / 295 s / 1.69.
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 235 / 2.7 / 1900000 / 7.11 s.
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 48km / 440 / 6.
Sensor strength: 12 Gravimetric.
Signature radius: 64.

if you are wondering why each of the sensor strength and sebo attributes are listed individually its because of the way EVE HQ constructs the bonuses for the ship editor

for those who are curios about these and want to put them into EVE HQ's ship editor there are links below

Would this not be better as a frigate, you know a t2 version of out support frigates?

This would be awesome, especially for the Worm Hole hunting community and the Hot Dropping community in eve

I'd say no to any covops rep ship with the exception of T3s who pay a big price to be cloaky and have no range on reps.

Cloaky or not, we need a T2 variation of the frigate-sized healer.

Also, obviously since gallente are specialized in remote sensor dampener, they should be the one using remote sensor booster.

Quite like these, as said though having 8 med+low is just excessive, would be tempted to let them fit the 6-7 reps and adjust the rep bonus down. Makes it nigh on impossible to permarun them but I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

As above and you, Sir, get a +1 from me! I like this idea a LOT and I don't often say that. Well done.

Recons and Stealth bombers are designed for cloaky hit-and-runs. They aren't meant to stay where they are uncloaked for any long period of time. You uncloak, make the attack, kill your target, and bounce. Rinse and repeat. The stealth bomber is effectively a glass cannon, capable of dishing out quite a bit of damage for a very cheap price. Light and mobile is the game to covert ops, and adding in remote reps almost defeats the purpose of this style of gameplay. With a logistic style ship you turn it into a missile boat that doesn't need to stay cloaked since reps. This could potentially lopside the balance of covert ops against Assault Frigs (currently one of the best tactics to killing bombers). Many Falcon pilots (and other recons) already utilize an available highslot for a remote rep, something you do after you have engaged your target.

Maintain the glass cannon idea of covert ops, they sacrificed their defense for the cloak and damage.

i like it