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Drake for gang PvP
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velmistr Ecco
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-28 08:03:11 UTC
Hi,

what are today's best recommendation for small gang pvp? I prefer drake as my skills are good for battlecruisers (but I guess I can fly gallente BC too, although I haven't bought any galente ship yet - apart from gallente shuttle Big smile).

I have been EFT warrioring a while and created this:

[Drake, PvP]
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hornet EC-300 x5


I have siege warfare mindlink and you need slot 6 implant Squire Engineering EG-602 to fit, unless you will help me (downgrading Siege warfare link will just need cheaper implant).

I have pretty good drone skills (now training heavy drones to lvl 5), so can you recommend me also gallente or even amarr ships (amarr BC lvl5)?

Thank you.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#2 - 2013-06-28 10:56:41 UTC
If you want a T2 link you can use something like this:

[Drake, PvP HMs + Link]

Reactor Control Unit II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Internal Force Field Array I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hornet EC-300 x5

This fit still requires a 1% implant, if you don't want the use an implant you have to downgrade the link to T1. This fit is pretty much better in every way than your fit, more EHP, more dps, T2 point, the only thing that's worse is probably the cap but it's stable with the MWD off.

If you want to make use of your drone skills in a BC the Prophecy and Myrmidon are obvious choices, I'd personally go with a Buffer Neut prophecy for small gang, those things are really brutal and really hard to take down and you have plenty of spare highs if you want a link as well, the Myrm will be better for dps.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-06-28 20:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Voyager Arran
Quote:
[Drake, New Setup 1]
[Drake, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

EM Ward Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I




Fits with 0.5 CPU remaining at all Vs. If you don't have Energy Grid Upgrades V, swap the Diagnostic System for another Reactor Control (they will both be Meta 4). Either way actually has some wiggle room on grid, so AWU IV won't be a problem. Your DPS is pretty mediocre without any BCS, but it's not like you picked a HML Drake for the crazy damage output. The nano might look like a bit of an odd choice, but there's nothing else useful that will fit there and it will make all your friends like you more since you're otherwise bringing a slow-as-**** Caldari Battlecruiser to a gang roam.

For small gangs, I'd recommend skirmish boosts over siege: EHP is nice, but extra agility and point range are amazing for that kind of work. You could also drop an Invuln for a long point, depending on how many other people will be there tackling for you.

This also avoids any needlessly expensive modules (Meta 4 DCs are in a bad place right now), though the rigs do cost a bit.
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#4 - 2013-06-28 21:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
I have used this in a small gang with good results. It might give you some ideas...C:

[Drake Navy Issue, SG Kite Drake Navy Issue]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier
Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II


T1 HAMs: 363/423DPS @ 31.3km with 1357 Volley
CN HAMs: 417/487DPS @ 31.3km with 1512 Volley
Javelin HAMs: 326/381DPS @ 46.9km with 1184 Volley
Rage HAMs: 489/572DPS @ 26.0km with 1775 Volley

+ 5x Warrior II: 80.4DPS

EHP: 50.5k/53.6k, 40k in shields. raw shields are 15.1k
TANK: 68.4/74.3HPs passive,
RESISTS: 51.9/61.6/58.0/65.0 cold, 55.5/64.4/61.6/68.0 hot.
CAP: 3m40s all running/all hot.
SPEED: 222ms with 5.80s align. 1357/1924ms with 7.97s align when MWD is on.


No, it does not have a suitcase.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-06-29 06:35:22 UTC
[Drake, PVP]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x5
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#6 - 2013-06-29 07:48:53 UTC
Personally I'd run with HAMs for a small gang and full tackle since there should be dedicated tackle for initial tackle and more dps is more valuable than more EHP in gangs IMO, especially on a Drake.

[Drake, HAMS + Link]

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5

This can do 725 max dps with Hobs and Rage (835 w/ heat), 60k EHP (70k EHP w/ link) and still has a T2 link. Requires a 3% CPU implant though.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-29 19:23:28 UTC
My fit is closer to the OP's original design, but honestly if I was on a roam that's the one I'd rather have with me (except with a Skirmish link).
velmistr Ecco
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-16 14:17:36 UTC
Thanks for tips.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2013-07-16 18:08:45 UTC
Dudes..

Dudes...

Genolutions.

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