EVE General Discussion

Somebody mentioned this in another post briefly and I thought it was legitimately a great idea, it's an idea that would end afk mining, make the activity not entirely brainless, and add a bit of strategy and player skill to the mix. By now I am sure most people have done a new data or relic site by now and have experienced Lootkakke. Well we need Roidkakke!

When a miner or strip miner ends it cycle instead of having the ore magically teleport to your cargo hold, 3 or 4 giant chunks of ore go floating off into space in different directions. It should be possible with proper attentiveness, ship positioning, and ship fitting to get all the floating ore before it floats off into the abyss. It should also be somewhat difficult to get all the floating ore per cycle, requiring near perfect positioning, most times most people should lose one or two floating ores.

Since most people will not get all the ore every cycle, it will allow those talented miners who do to earn better income. ISBoxer fleets of 100 miners will no longer be feasible. People will need to decide if they want to play EVE online or watch TV/do homework, instead of doing both simultaneously. And best of all legitimate miners that don't run 100 accounts can actually turn a profit from mining.

I don't like the spew in data/relic sites, wouldn't like it in an asteroid belt.

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This isn't a nerf highsec thread quite the opposite, this is a buff high-sec thread for 99% of players. With all the afk miners gone and all the bot miner armies gone there will be more profit left for the real miners. A change like this may even require a secondary change to the yeilds of mining modules, more yield per cycle to prevent the mineral market from skyrocketing.

Maximillian how many times have you experienced loot spew? I didn't like it first but it grew on me as I got good at it. I went from getting <30% of containers to getting >70% of containers (and 100% of the good containers by using a cargo scanner)

Here we go...why is everyone soooo concerned with afk miners, you know if it is done so nobody can afk would all the miner hate stop....huh, would all of eve get off our Veldspar stained nuts?

Nerf this nerf that, I don't do it but lets change this because ......, ok f it, lets have a pvp toggle and a pve toggle this way if I am in pve toggle mode I cannot be engaged at all by PVP'ers cause hey, I don't like pvp because I don't do it its not my game.

I'm a long time off and on miner. I have no issues with the suggestion but something not mentioned needs to be.

Yield would have to be seriously improved. If an activity is changed to require MUCH more effort there should be an increase in output. Mining is already just about the bottom of the ISK/hr list of high sec activities.

There would need to be some research into how that would effect fleet mechaincs. If a corp had a 10 man mining fleet running in a belt, how would all those spewing can look / work?

It's not that serious.

p.s. loot spew is a terrible mechanic for EvE. Let's not have any more of that type of gameplay for a game which doesn't even lend itself that well to it.

Fair point.

OTOH, exploding 'roids could make it a spectator sport, too.

Oh yes it is a nerf hisec thread. Your shortened foresight just can't see it yet.

If your terrible asterkake idea was required for mining, even "real miners" would get bored of it very quickly and hardly anyone would be doing it. Even "real miners" have fleets of 4-5 ships out there doing it manually, and if they had to click on cans every other minute, they'd stop "playing" that game.

The mineral market would crash - and introducing another fix to fix your first fix is not solving the problem. You're just addressing a symptom.

Try again.

Are any of the people saying mining should be more active actually miners? Or is this a case of "I do not like the way you play a game, therefore the game should be changed"?

There should be 2 options. Leave the afk mining and add a new mechanic where you need to actually play the game with maybe a new ship/module.