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Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from behind!

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Joepopo
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#541 - 2013-07-15 07:51:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Joepopo
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.


That's not even needed.

To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out.

Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off.

But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources.


This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#542 - 2013-07-15 08:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
the big problems with the goons posting here is that they get teached to do what they get told, therefore their brainwashed minds can not understand somebody who does the complete opposite... they keep telling us where to go and what fitting we need to use, like they where told as well in their training classes

some getting real angry that we do not listen, acting exactly like their leaders... they tell us for hours shooting cynoships is sensless but at the same time start protecting those ships, setting up traps with cynos and even selfdestruct those ships... they act already more on our doing then we care for their advices

phase 2 of this goonageddon soon will kick in... they alread lost the first round, hope they do better in the second

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
WASPY69
Xerum.
#543 - 2013-07-15 14:08:14 UTC
I chuckled a little reading this. On a serious note though, I think it's a great idea, since what will happen is you will run into bubbles and lose your slave clones. And if you somehow manage to get into a fight where you don't get blapped to dust, you will finally experience pvp, experience the best part of EVE.
So, I approve of this. Get out of your officer fit navy ravens and fit up a T1 pvp ship and have fun!

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#544 - 2013-07-15 14:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Joepopo wrote:
This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK.


It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.

The emperor wears no clothes, and very weak due to it.

To kill off the Goons is quite simple: shut the faucet off in what they can't buy, and that's the resources itself.

Save the time and dime playing patty cake, and go for the jugular.

And now folks can see why there's so much activity in high-sec. Goons have to control the flow of resources to win.

Nothing novel. Standard warfare. Can just take Rommel's push through Africa as a blueprint...it's the oil stupid.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#545 - 2013-07-15 15:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
But all warfare is economic, you see....

When you are in a Rifter with say, 6 million ISK invested, and someone who went to nullsec to run anoms in their Tengu has to chase you down, they might get you. But it takes time. Now, in the time it takes to catch Mr Rifter and pod him back to highsec, how much ISK would you have made if you could have peacefully carebeared it up running anoms out there in nullsec?

That Rifter cost you way more than it did the person who was flying it. And that person you podded will be back.

^ Quoting, in case people missed this point. Whenever you're spending your time not making isk or in a fleet, we're winning. Like you're doing now in VFK, with guys guarding the station and trying to bait and set up traps.

There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors. (We're not vindictive, but we have to be practical, and anti-morale efforts are a part of that). Make you waste your isk-earning time doing unproductive things. You guys saying "Ha ha, keep killing the cyno frigs" are completely missing the point. But that's OK-- keep at it boys. We don't mind. Smile
Ginger Barbarella
#546 - 2013-07-15 16:13:01 UTC
Failposter alt detected...

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Joepopo
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#547 - 2013-07-16 00:23:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Joepopo
Ace Uoweme wrote:

It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.


Yeah, I think we took the resources with us in Fountain for safekeeping.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#548 - 2013-07-16 00:50:18 UTC
Joepopo wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:

It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.


Yeah, I think we took the resources with us in Fountain for safekeeping.


As long as you're dependent on the mat faucet, you'll always be vulnerable due to it.

Can't have those fancy ships without it, and ISK alone isn't going to buy them out of thin air.

What's your game?

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Gods Prophet
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#549 - 2013-07-16 01:02:34 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer]
There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors.. Smile


This. I cant imagine the ass chewing those goons on the gate got when my little ship carrying the body I stole jumped back thru and made it out of their trap. I bet they still can sit down without wincing. :)

I got the body back btw. In all its rotten, smelly glory. Its hanging on my wall, center stage, in pride of place. If I contract it The Mittani for a billion isk you think he would buy it? Nah, he doesnt care about dead goons. Thats what your supposed to be to him.

For anyone reading this, get in your ship and join us. Harry and team are blowing up goon ships IN FRONT OF MITTANIGRAD. Im stealing bodies off their doorstep. And this isnt even the beginning. Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :)
Joepopo
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#550 - 2013-07-16 01:08:58 UTC
Gods Prophet wrote:
Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :)


Admit, it is for RP.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#551 - 2013-07-16 06:36:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Gods Prophet wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer]
There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors.. Smile


This. I cant imagine the ass chewing those goons on the gate got when my little ship carrying the body I stole jumped back thru and made it out of their trap. I bet they still can sit down without wincing. :)

I got the body back btw. In all its rotten, smelly glory. Its hanging on my wall, center stage, in pride of place. If I contract it The Mittani for a billion isk you think he would buy it? Nah, he doesnt care about dead goons. Thats what your supposed to be to him.

For anyone reading this, get in your ship and join us. Harry and team are blowing up goon ships IN FRONT OF MITTANIGRAD. Im stealing bodies off their doorstep. And this isnt even the beginning. Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :)


nice logistical masterpiece, no goon will feel safe in his clone anymore, knowing they might endup on your wall when they die! Big smile

your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much about in goonland...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#552 - 2013-07-16 07:02:05 UTC
Why are the cyno ships being SD'ed?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#553 - 2013-07-16 09:02:27 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much about in goonland...


Just kill Mitt, then auction off his body.

I'm sure there will be someone who'd love to buy his corpse to do vile things with. Lol

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#554 - 2013-07-16 09:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much about in goonland...


Just kill Mitt, then auction off his body.

I'm sure there will be someone who'd love to buy his corpse to do vile things with. Lol


nice one! 10 million for the guy who brings me that corpse! please contract it over!

I put it up as prize for the Goons Doomsday Event

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#555 - 2013-07-16 11:23:45 UTC
Lol, Harry.
Tought you occupied VFK already. Lol
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#556 - 2013-07-16 12:19:53 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Lol, Harry.
Tought you occupied VFK already. Lol


I am, I am, but i feel lonely, need more people there Big smile

going around highsec now to spread the word Big smile

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#557 - 2013-07-16 12:56:09 UTC
Joepopo wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.

That's not even needed.

To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out.

Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off.

But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources.

This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK.

I don't really get it, but basically I should avoid jumping ships into VFK because NOT ONLY BL is camping it with machs, but now there's some guys shooting cynoships on the undock or something?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#558 - 2013-07-16 14:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Joepopo wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.

That's not even needed.

To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out.

Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off.

But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources.

This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK.

I don't really get it, but basically I should avoid jumping ships into VFK because NOT ONLY BL is camping it with machs, but now there's some guys shooting cynoships on the undock or something?


and you are lost, not beeing able to do anything about it, soon thousands of ships will be cloaked up there, shooting bombs to welcome you, you are blindfolded, just got a big mouth and nothing is behind it....

one guy (big mouth goonbuddy number 2343) some weeks ago told me I should come to VFK you are waiting, I did, nothing happend, except me shooting 40 of your supporting ships, another guy (goonbuddy 3478) told me I was blacklisted by the goons and should ask others how screwed I am, again nothing happened, went mining in highsec was waiting for one of you to showup, zero consequences, boring! all just talk nothing behind it, you guys are just living from your trashtalk and probably hit F1 when your leaders tell you.

I yet have to find a single goon who is able to do what he is bubbling about! just a bunch of forum pussys!

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#559 - 2013-07-16 14:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Lol

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#560 - 2013-07-16 15:12:07 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Lol

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