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Missiles against Amarr ships?
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Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-15 08:54:27 UTC
I recently moved to Gallente space and started doing level 3 missions in my Drake Battlecruiser however when I did a level 3 mission against the Amarr I found my ship doing terrible damage against cruisers.

I should have been doing 400 damage a shot with kinetic heavy missiles at 43km instead I was doing about 70. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I'm shooting the wrong type of missiles at them. Weird thing is I've done level 3s in a cruiser against amarrians before and I had no problem in killing them.

So what am I doing wrong?
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#2 - 2013-07-15 09:06:36 UTC
just switch damage types and see if it works. Also mission forums are thata way ------>

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Threndir
ISK Enterprises Ltd
#3 - 2013-07-15 09:10:34 UTC
Well there are a few things that affect missile damage.

- Velocity of your target (the faster it is moving, the less damage you do)
- Signature radius (the smaller the signature, the less damage you do)
- Resists (the higher resists to kinetic, the less damage you do)

What you can do is google the name of the ship you are shooting at. You probably end up on eveinfo.com which contains a database of all ships and their resists. For example: http://eveinfo.com/npcship/16933/eve-online-corpii-upholder.html (blood faction though).

If kinetic resists are the problem, the Drake probably isn't your best option since you are gimping it if you load any other missile than kinetic. In general Amarr are vunerable to EM and Thermic damage, so your kinetic missiles could just as well be the problem.

Ovv Topik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-15 21:32:51 UTC
Throw EM/Thermal damage at Amarr. Simple as that!

See this: http://www.alcyonecodesmith.com/eve/damage_types.shtml

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2013-07-16 02:47:49 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
Throw EM/Thermal damage at Amarr. Simple as that!

See this: http://www.alcyonecodesmith.com/eve/damage_types.shtml

Pretty much this.

Rule of thumb: NPCs are weakest against the type of damage they deal (and resistant against everything else).

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-07-16 06:09:58 UTC
You can shoot mjinlor's from the drake without taking too big a hit to your dps. Its certainly notable but not a deal breaker. I'm actually surprised that your not here complaining about how the drake's brick tank is worthless against lasers.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-07-16 08:04:04 UTC
- yeah...use EM missiles (mjolnir) against Amarr

- Don't accept missions against one of the empire factions (Gallente, Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr) if you care about lowering your standings with one until their navy shoots you if you go into their territory

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Nox Solitudo
That Random Worker Ant Colony
#8 - 2013-07-16 08:38:02 UTC
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-16 08:42:52 UTC
yeah I tried all types of missiles and it was still poor damage and I couldn't break their active armour tank. Ulltimately had to get a corp mate in another battlecruiser to come in and overwhelm them.

Looked the ship type up on the npc database and they have something stupid like70-90% resistance to everthing across the board.

I've done some other missions and even against amarr ships I do so much better. I guess that that one mission is just slightly broken.
Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-07-16 17:14:16 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
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Looked the ship type up on the npc database and they have something stupid like70-90% resistance to everthing across the board.

I've done some other missions and even against amarr ships I do so much better. I guess that that one mission is just slightly broken.

These ships you've encountered are elite versions. If it were pirates you could tell by their outstanding bounties. They occour in some of the missions. For example The Blockade has quite a bunch of them.

If you can't deal with them you should work on your damage related skills - including drones - and/or rethink your fitting. You should have two or three Ballistic Control System II fitted on your Drake. Use less than three only if you're having issues with tanking.