Ships & Modules

Anyone have a good cheap roaming pvp ..say for example someone that just joined RvB?

A simple, fast Thorax with range is a good start. Be fast and snipe. Otherwise will you have too many other players on top of you and take you for easy prey, especially in RvB with all them frigates and rookie ships.

[Thorax, PvP Sniper/Kiter]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Warrior II x5
Acolyte TD-300 x5

If you rather want to sit in the centre then this Vexor with 30k eHP, a high rep rate and strong neuts will work as a drone fortress. It just needs a lot of frigate pilots who only see the ship as the threat and not its drones...

[Vexor, PvP Drone Fortress]

Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
[Empty High slot]

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Hobgoblin II x1
Hammerhead II x2
Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x4

OH no!

Dual tanking vexor advice given........must go and remove my eyes so I don't see this abomination ever again!

Whithound stop. Just stop.

I'll admit the number look nice but the shield hp I cna alpha through with a thrasher. While the DPS 'numbers' seem good the application those numbers is actually very bad. The LASB while OH only reps 429hp per pulse. So you won't be keeping up with the damage that will get through your shields very much at all.

TBH I would suggest swapping that for a web if you are going against frigs as you'll need it for the hammerheads and ogres to even catch your target before they try to apply damage. I've solo'd neut,shield vexors (with a bragged about 600+dps output according to the pilot) in an AB'ing slasher before. This will die horribly to the frig blob that occurs in RvB. and if those frigs are kitey then it has no ability what so ever to harm them.

Even as bait it doesn't do such a good job either. As already pointed out the shield tank doesn't work becasue it has no buffer and can be alpha'd through pretty easily.

I didn't say I didn't like it. I am saying it's just bad. And why put some half assed bait vexor when the OP asked for a Rail thorax fit. Of which yours isn't the worst I 've seen. Just give them that and you'd have done something usefull instead of handing out crap advice that wasn't asked for.


To the OP:

TBH medium rail thorax's aren't the most effective fits for the thorax (not saying it can't be done but you'll get better results with other styles of combat) But there are a few rumours floating around atm about a med rails buff based on a twitpic (or whatever they are called) from one of the devs. Check out the general discussions section.

Thorax you said? Well let me be of assistance.

Thorax: Armour Brawler

Highs:
Heavy Electron Blaster II (x5)

Mids:
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
[Slot for anything your heart desires]

Lows:
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (x2)
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Rigs:
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armour Pump I (x2)

Drones:
Valkyrie II (x5)

Pretty much the same fit as the one above me, but I prefer Valks to Hammers because they can track webbed frigates very well. This fit is more suited to a small gang scenario where you have a few logistics with you, but it can work solo. I just don't advise it due to the lack of speed on armour boats.

Thorax: Shield Brawler

Highs:
Heavy Ion Blaster II (x5)

Mids:
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Large FS-9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large Shield Extender II

Lows:
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (x3)
Power Diagnostic System II

Rigs:
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I (x2)

Drones;
Warrior II (x10)

This fit is great for taking on other cruisers, as it can oftentimes overwhelm them with its DPS. Pushes 500 from guns alone with good skills and about 80 from drones. It is very weak against frigates due to the lack of web, so be cautious and don't let them get under your guns.

Thorax: Kinda Kitey Kinda Brawley

Highs:
Heavy Nuetron Blaster II (x5)

Mids:
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator I
Large Shield Extender II

Lows:
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (x2)
Tracking Enhancer II (x2)

Rigs:
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I (x2)

Drones:
On this fit drones are really personal preference. I run Valks to deal with both frigs and cruisers, but warriors/hobs/Hammers will also work.

This fit excels at seperatiing gangs and quickly blapping tackle off the field, then holding down the larger targets while your guns tear them to shreds. With null you can hit out to around 20km, and with Antimatter out to 12km. Your tank is very light at a paper 14k EHP, but if you pay your cards right you can evade most damage from frigs and larger than cruiser targets.

Confirming this is a good fit. I personally usually go all-in on the tank and fit reinforced bulkheads instead of the DDAs and a hull repairer instead of the AB.

He said cheap. Once you put a ACR on it, its simply not cheap anymore. Also i'm pretty sure you just need the ACR to dual prop it.

Same here, guilty as charged. So I have revised my Sniper/Kiter Thorax to this:

[Thorax, PvP Cheap Sniper/Kiter]

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Large Shield Extender II

200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Plutonium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Plutonium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Plutonium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Plutonium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Plutonium Charge M

Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters I

Warrior II x5
Acolyte TD-300 x5

The engagement range is now 17km but it should not have a problem to hold its position, because it flies with up to 2407 m/s (3433 m/s overheated). This is faster than an unpimped Stabber. It has got 18.5k eHP and deals up to 357 DPS together with the 5x Warrior IIs. It is not going to kill a lot, especially well tanked ships that are able to shoot back will drive it off. It is however cheap (all items but the railguns cost less than a million per piece) and it is fast enough to stay outside web and scram range. It is more PG and cap friendly than the previous one I have posted and thereby more suitable for low-SP pilots (so I hope). PYFA sets its price at 27.4m ISKs (ship + fitting).

Cap for 1:42 with max skills and everything running. Not enough for kiting imo. Works maybe in 1v1 fights but when you try to kite a small gang (constant MWDing) you'll need a cap booster.

Regarding TD drones: when using them on the Thorax (as an example), optimal range will be reduced by 2km, falloff by another 2km - and due to stacking penalty only by 2 drones. So I'd consider to mix in some other drones.