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Raziphan Rebular
Path of Dooppa
#181 - 2011-11-09 16:49:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Raziphan Rebular
You should consider how many MMOs have tried to copy wow as a means to success, you should consider how many of those are now dead, or on a free2play pay2win model. Now quit eve and go play wow. We on't want your kind here.

Bottom line is you can't beat WoW by trying to be WoW. I if you don't believe me just watch what happened with SWTOR over the next year or two.
Reeno Coleman
#182 - 2011-11-09 17:00:44 UTC
It's not the safeness that keeps away the "WoW-type players" (sorry for the stereotype). It's the lack of content; WoW has new stuff to offer around every corner and you are taken by the hand to reach it. Yes, it is repetitious, but it's very well camouflaged repetition. Not so in EvE. Once you flown 20 lvl4 Missions, you kind of get that that's all you'll ever get. Unless... unless you really commit and get into what EVE is all about. Nullsec, Wormholes, Industry, the Market, ... pick your favorite. This 5% of the players then complain about safety as it makes their game boring, they already passed the threshold and internalized some things you don't see elsewhere.
Reislier
#183 - 2011-11-09 17:17:20 UTC
lol-ganking is the issue.

The high sec people have problems with one kind of ganker.

A lol-gank is a pipe bomb tossed in the window of a school bus.
A dazzling display of skill and hard work. /spit

A ganker should play the damn game.
Be a hitman with a purpose and take real cold hard risks in the freaking game.

Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#184 - 2011-11-09 17:41:46 UTC
Reislier wrote:
lol-ganking is the issue.

The high sec people have problems with one kind of ganker.

A lol-gank is a pipe bomb tossed in the window of a school bus.
A dazzling display of skill and hard work. /spit

A ganker should play the damn game.
Be a hitman with a purpose and take real cold hard risks in the freaking game.


Your lol-ganker IS playing the game.

Perhaps you should roll the window up or upgrade your school bus.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#185 - 2011-11-09 17:44:20 UTC
Reislier wrote:
lol-ganking is the issue.

The high sec people have problems with one kind of ganker.

A lol-gank is a pipe bomb tossed in the window of a school bus.
A dazzling display of skill and hard work. /spit

A ganker should play the damn game.
Be a hitman with a purpose and take real cold hard risks in the freaking game.

haha

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#186 - 2011-11-09 17:48:49 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
K Suri is an obvious troll alt anyways, she even admitted it in another thread.

No in that other thread he realized he was losing the argument and went into "lol guyz I was just trolling ju" mode to try and salvage some self respect.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Hyacinthous
Dark Shadow Syndicate
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#187 - 2011-11-09 17:48:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Hyacinthous
Set it up so that criminals/pirates that enter high sec and try to commit more crime will not ONLY be followed and attacked by concord or faction navies, but they will also be PODDED.

This will add in a bit more fear for the fearless clowns that think they can do whatever they want.

Also, set it up further so that anyone that commits crime in highsec is flagged by all of the factions, making ALL of highsec space lethal to them. Pirates shouldn't be allowed to roam Lawful space, that's what the "space police" are for.

How about this: Concord chases, Faction navies destroy and pod.


Hell set it up so that there is an R next to criminals names for the Reward you can receive either from player bounties or concord/faction navy bounties for blowing up their ships and pods or capturing them.

EVE could be such a better space game than it is now, too bad it is burdened by fools and idiots like the goons who ruin the game entirely.

We can only hope that those in CCP who have the truest intentions will hold strong against the heretics that want to corrupt and destroy their game/game mechanics for their own personal gains.
Raziphan Rebular
Path of Dooppa
#188 - 2011-11-09 17:56:48 UTC
Hyacinthous wrote:
Set it up so that criminals/pirates that enter high sec and try to commit more crime will not ONLY be followed and attacked by concord or faction navies, but they will also be PODDED.

This will add in a bit more fear for the fearless clowns that think they can do whatever they want.

Also, set it up further so that anyone that commits crime in highsec is flagged by all of the factions, making ALL of highsec space lethal to them. Pirates shouldn't be allowed to roam Lawful space, that's what the "space police" are for.

How about this: Concord chases, Faction navies destroy and pod.


Maybe next you can ask for concord to mine for you.
Hyacinthous
Dark Shadow Syndicate
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#189 - 2011-11-09 17:59:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Hyacinthous
Raziphan Rebular wrote:
Hyacinthous wrote:
Set it up so that criminals/pirates that enter high sec and try to commit more crime will not ONLY be followed and attacked by concord or faction navies, but they will also be PODDED.

This will add in a bit more fear for the fearless clowns that think they can do whatever they want.

Also, set it up further so that anyone that commits crime in highsec is flagged by all of the factions, making ALL of highsec space lethal to them. Pirates shouldn't be allowed to roam Lawful space, that's what the "space police" are for.

How about this: Concord chases, Faction navies destroy and pod.

Hell set it up so that there is an R next to criminals names for the Reward you can receive either from player bounties or concord/faction navy bounties for blowing up their ships and pods or capturing them.

EVE could be such a better space game than it is now, too bad it is burdened by fools and idiots like the goons who ruin the game entirely.

We can only hope that those in CCP who have the truest intentions will hold strong against the heretics that want to corrupt and destroy their game/game mechanics for their own personal gains.


Maybe next you can ask for concord to mine for you.



Try harder, I don't mine and due to dicks like you I don't even play so just stfu chump.

Hehe :D

P.S. you are a loser
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#190 - 2011-11-09 17:59:43 UTC
Hyacinthous wrote:
Try harder, I don't mine and due to dicks like you I don't even play so just stfu chump.

Hehe :D

P.S. you are a loser

Mission accomplished!

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Hyacinthous
Dark Shadow Syndicate
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#191 - 2011-11-09 18:01:00 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hyacinthous wrote:
Try harder, I don't mine and due to dicks like you I don't even play so just stfu chump.

Hehe :D

P.S. you are a loser

Mission accomplished!


What a loss of more time in your worthless life?

No, i'm not mad i'm actually having fun. You guys make this so easy.

Furthermore, It's not that YOU are the cause, but just one of the millions of reasons. Besides, I have More important, Fun games to play. BF3, Skyrim.

Thank you very much.

LolTwisted
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#192 - 2011-11-09 18:11:35 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
Until Blizzard starts making a Space PVP game and a MMOFPS, CCP has got it covered and should try to remember WHY they're not taking a huge plunge like every other PVE fantasy mmo on that chart.


If that day ever shows up I'll be on the first ones to pay for a beta test account and sure on the first ones to log on the live servers.
Reislier
#193 - 2011-11-09 18:13:09 UTC
War Kitten wrote:


Your lol-ganker IS playing the game.

Perhaps you should roll the window up or upgrade your school bus.


I know he is.. Wimps in space.

Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#194 - 2011-11-09 18:16:54 UTC
Hyacinthous wrote:
What a loss of more time in your worthless life?

Nope. Running people like you out of my internet spaceship game is never a waste of time.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#195 - 2011-11-09 18:39:48 UTC
K Suri wrote:
Or should it be "Wow. This is Eve"?

A common retort used by the highly intellectual types on Eve-O is "go play Wow" or "Wow is that way". This is usually in response to the cry to make some things safer in Eve.

Now I have mixed views as to the validity of "safeness" and I fully understand the ethos that is Eve. But you know, if I were a commercial entity trying to raise the subscriber base, I'd be seriously looking at games that make the serious coin.

Wow has more than 11 million subscribers, roughly 20 times more than Eve. I've never played the game but if I take the comments of "go play Wow" to mean a game that is "safe" or has "safe areas" then how come it's so big? One of the most successful MMO's ever to hit the big screen. I'm fully aware that it's not single shard and segmented economics would be a consequence, but this does not seem to hurt the game overall.

Would CCP be doing good for business by making areas - such as high-sec - a safer place to nurture and establish new players and corporations?

Of course, there are many arguments both for and against and as an avid reader of the many posts on the topics, I can only see the protection of an idealogy as the common response for the vast majority of "change nothing" posters.

Is this the right approach? Is this being childishly selfish?

Does Eve need to evolve, in some areas, to be more effective for CCP economically? Is this the plan?

Food for thought.


WoW had 12 million subscribers on the beginning of the year. Now it has little over 10 million. And the downward trend continues..

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#196 - 2011-11-09 19:42:55 UTC
Hyacinthous wrote:
Besides, I have More important games to play.


/derp

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#197 - 2011-11-09 19:48:23 UTC
What is it they say?

In WOW they'll take the cookies you bring and baby-feed it to you.
In EVE they'll take your cookies, eat it themselves and than laugh at you for bringing one in the first place.

This is why EVE should not become WOW.
Zen Sarum
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#198 - 2011-11-09 19:52:14 UTC
EVE is not ..that game..

Do not even talk about them on the same level or in the same breath

Also ..you should now go play WOW..

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#199 - 2011-11-09 19:56:27 UTC
I would like to remind eve players that while wow does have about 9+ million subs now they managed to lose like 1.7m million in the last year. While eve still manages to grow despite the emo rage quit and how featuless the carbonization drought was.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#200 - 2011-11-09 20:01:03 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
the carbonization drought

I like this phrase

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.