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How to be a pirate/ganker/camper?
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4daForum
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-07-13 03:03:34 UTC  |  Edited by: 4daForum
My pilot is 17million SP almost entirely on PvP skills.
My goal since I started has always been to be a "outlaw" in the game, a pirate... a ganker, a notorious Rancer gatecamper.. etc etc.

Since forever I've been switching back and forth between PvP lowsec/0.0 roaming corps, RvB and Faction Warfare... in other games, mainstream PvP like this would be my focus, but other games are determined by incentive of rank... organized and competitive competition, but this is a sandbox there is no incentive... just do it for the thrill of the moment.

FW is stale.. people plexing for Isk, people roaming around with their friends looking for WT's, and bored neutral gangs roaming for a piece of the entertainment without having to commit themselves (usually hisec PvE carebears taking a break).

RvB is.. just about the lowest form of PvP in the game, usually consists of waiting for other side to aggress before jumping on him and then hoping you can kill him before he is able to dock... no opportunity for tear collection here, no profit to be made, very repetitive and stale.

PvP roaming corps... I have a certain level of respect for the very organized FC's who run these, they do what they do very well... which is command fleets around lowsec and 0.0 looking for other fleets to fight... but that's basically it.


As I switch between these activities... sometimes in my dock I think..
"ok, today is the day I become a pirate, a suicide ganker, a gate camper"....
today is the day I gank somebody hauling 2bil in implants...
today is the day I kill a mission drake daring to jump into a 0.4 system for a mission...

So I leave RvB/FW, appropriately fit my Harbinger... Oracle, Navy Slicer or Legion

*Clicks Undock*...

Ok, so... what now?
I have no "friends to speak of"... no connections with the same goals as me, where do I go from here?...

Hmm well, I've messed up my employment history, the previous owner of my pilot messed up the killboard stats... so I don't really have the option to apply for a like-minded corp...

If I jump into Rancer I'll be killed by a bigger and badder pirate.
I don't have the Alpha of a Tornado so I can't solo gank, nor do I have anybody to loot for me.
I don't have the scouting tool set for scanning down mission runners for mission flipping.
No miners to gank in lowsec.

*Docks up and rejoins Amarr militia*.

sigh
Rells
Lethal Riposte
#2 - 2013-07-13 03:11:12 UTC
Without comrades, that life will be difficult. There is no Win stick in eve. No uber sword of "I own you".

You will most likely be a joke than a pirate. Remember that mission drake has been jumping into 0.4 a lot and you are not the only one with a few guns and an ego that he has encountered.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#3 - 2013-07-13 03:48:51 UTC
What is it with Rancer that makes it camped 23.5 hours of the day.

And what corp enjoys sitting at a gate.
4daForum
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-07-13 03:55:35 UTC
Q 5 wrote:
What is it with Rancer that makes it camped 23.5 hours of the day.

It's the shortest route between Rens and Jita.

Q 5 wrote:
And what corp enjoys sitting at a gate.

The ones which love to ruin the day of a ballsy hauler...

Billions in drops are just a bonus... tears are priceless.
How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
#5 - 2013-07-13 04:20:50 UTC
This is a horrible post. What are you asking us? How you can be a great pirate? It starts with undocking. I'll even give you a hint, go out and fly and get blown up. That more "experienced" pirate in your post only got that way by doing the same. You won't get any better or fulfill what you want to do in the game unless you do it. Lol KB stats don't matter either. Just fly your ship and play the damn game. Oh, If you fly long enough and get better and start blowing things up..your kb stats will improve if they are that important to you.


Soup
Faceless Parmala
Air
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-07-13 06:52:47 UTC
Make friends
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
CONTROL.
#7 - 2013-07-13 08:03:46 UTC
GO out and do it. I've spent most of my time in this game solo with no regrets. Hell come fly with me if you want that -10 so bad. We can even snuggle if you want.

Don.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#8 - 2013-07-13 11:15:10 UTC
4daForum wrote:
Ok, so... what now?
I have no "friends to speak of"... no connections with the same goals as me, where do I go from here?...


Hook up with the New Order (www.minerbumping.com). Not only do we gank, but it's also a great place to network with other like-minded people and groups. Some even go on to make the transition to low or nullsec corps.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Obunagawe
#9 - 2013-07-13 11:18:48 UTC
You can't.

It's like in RL... a Tuna in the sea decides he's a shark. He is about the same size as some sharks, he can surely be a shark right? Nope, he gets eaten.

You are either a Tuna or a Shark. And these days, everyone starts as a Tuna.
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-07-13 11:25:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Templar Knightsbane
Dear OP.

Eve isn't a game that you can just do these things you talk of day in day out solo. Very few players achieve this and those that do are dedicated and hardened.

Solo players spends A LOT of time scouting and finding targets, or even more time sat on a gate waiting for the one time someone does fly through carrying a boatload of isk in the cargo also in a ship you can catch and with the ability to pick up all the cargo in a non hauling ship.

My advice to you is go join a pirate corp like goons, someone who is known to do what you want to do in Eve, ganking is usually a team effort, solo ganking can be done podding people killing indy ships in HS and such but to be ganking people carrying 2bil in cargo more than once a blue moon, well, you need friends, tactics and co-ordination.

Stop being a "I can't" and become a "I can".

Practice on less valuable targets in HS in destroyers and such. A thrasher is a very old and effective tool to get to grips with and will help you get some tears flowing by the end of the day.

FW is not the PVP you are looking for!
MrMaximas
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-07-13 11:34:22 UTC
If you haven't found a Corp to join yet and still want to be a pirate.
Send me a msg and I'll see what I can do to get you my Corp. Pure pirating!!!
This character is nobody but only for forums use only.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-07-13 11:50:43 UTC
4daForum wrote:
I have no "friends to speak of"... no connections with the same goals as me, where do I go from here?...


I have tried the solo low-sec thing, and it's good fun, but the low-sec gate gun mechanic makes it somewhat tricky, you are going to need an alt and you are going to need isk to burn. You are going to have a hard time making any profit apart from bounties and loot, and unless you have good pvp skills that is probably not going to cover what you lose, but it's still fun and you get some intense fights do to the added damage from gate guns.

If you are look for a way to make a profit, maybe you should consider hi-sec wars and extortion. I've not tried it myself, but when flying solo it might be a better choice.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2013-07-13 13:43:38 UTC
You can do anything you want, with the right attitude. But I will admit, knowing people helps a lot.

There are a lot of good corps out there in low and I'm sure someone would take you on. I'm not personally involved in recruitment, but we suck anyway so.....

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#14 - 2013-07-13 13:44:47 UTC
Mag's wrote:
You can do anything you want, with the right attitude. But I will admit, knowing people helps a lot.

There are a lot of good corps out there in low and I'm sure someone would take you on. I'm not personally involved in recruitment, but we suck anyway so.....


I rarely see you ingame these days, scrub! :P

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#15 - 2013-07-13 13:46:59 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Mag's wrote:
You can do anything you want, with the right attitude. But I will admit, knowing people helps a lot.

There are a lot of good corps out there in low and I'm sure someone would take you on. I'm not personally involved in recruitment, but we suck anyway so.....


I rarely see you ingame these days, scrub! :P
RL bud, no time atm. Cry
But I see light at the end of the tunnel and our house is nearly complete. Cool

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#16 - 2013-07-13 13:48:57 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Mag's wrote:
You can do anything you want, with the right attitude. But I will admit, knowing people helps a lot.

There are a lot of good corps out there in low and I'm sure someone would take you on. I'm not personally involved in recruitment, but we suck anyway so.....


I rarely see you ingame these days, scrub! :P
RL bud, no time atm. Cry
But I see light at the end of the tunnel and our house is nearly complete. Cool


That leads to a mountain of debt. <3

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-07-13 13:51:00 UTC
4daForum wrote:
My pilot is 17million SP almost entirely on PvP skills.
My goal since I started has always been to be a "outlaw" in the game, a pirate... a ganker, a notorious Rancer gatecamper.. etc etc.


First, be lazy. Just "hop in".

Second, park yourself at a gate in your cheapest fit blasting ship (+1 if you mission run and got them for free).

Third, look for a someone flying a defenseless ship (shuttle; death frigate; pod).

Fourth, shoot it.

There you're now a 17 million SP trained criminal that can join the other PvP bads.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Mag's
Azn Empire
#18 - 2013-07-13 13:51:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Alpheias wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Alpheias wrote:


I rarely see you ingame these days, scrub! :P
RL bud, no time atm. Cry
But I see light at the end of the tunnel and our house is nearly complete. Cool


That leads to a mountain of debt. <3
Oh god tell me about it, it' a bloody money pit. Lol

Edit: INB4AAW

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#19 - 2013-07-13 13:54:09 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
4daForum wrote:
My pilot is 17million SP almost entirely on PvP skills.
My goal since I started has always been to be a "outlaw" in the game, a pirate... a ganker, a notorious Rancer gatecamper.. etc etc.


First, be lazy. Just "hop in".

Second, park yourself at a gate in your cheapest fit blasting ship (+1 if you mission run and got them for free).

Third, look for a someone flying a defenseless ship (shuttle; death frigate; pod).

Fourth, shoot it.

There you're now a 17 million SP trained criminal that can join the other PvP bads.


Holy ****. If it is that easy to get to you, I am definitely coming for you babeh!

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#20 - 2013-07-13 13:54:57 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Alpheias wrote:


I rarely see you ingame these days, scrub! :P
RL bud, no time atm. Cry
But I see light at the end of the tunnel and our house is nearly complete. Cool


That leads to a mountain of debt. <3
Oh god tell me about it, it' a bloody money pit. Lol

Edit: INB4AAW


Can't wait for you bawling your eyes out for me. Them Mag's tears....mhmhmhmhm! :p

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
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