Ships & Modules

I think it needs total overhaul

maybe make it hybrid/missile platform + drones (torps crusies just suck on rattler, because of outdated bonuses)
maybe make it drones only platform that could put out 10 drones with max skills ?

it needs a massive buff and all around overhaul.
they need to put it back to being a torp gank boat that it used to be.

the velocity also helps them get on target faster. So in theory you don't waste as much ammo since its damage should apply faster. I have always been too lazy to remember how many salvo's per rat so the speed of use to me anyway.


Cruise hits pretty decent time wise when target enter and then are below your roughly 60km' sentry range. Rattler is not meant to snipe with cruise. It enhances the drone damage.



Personally if rattler was to get a change I'd vote for hybrids myself. Caldari lack a bling hybrid platform. And to be honest with some nice tweaking rattler could put out some pain with a nice sentry/hybrid combo. Yes I know gurista do missiles. This is a pipe dream.


Of course so is the missile only rattler. If's not like that is well covered. SNI, CNR, Golem....missile chuckers got theirs and don't need more. Unless ofc ccp wanted to fix up widow to do a bit better in pve to make it useful for more than dropping ninjya ships (that I'd sign off on lol).

its fine as it is.

all have their pros and cons, this is the only decent shield tanked drone boat, and the tank is INSANE.

the damage is fine for such a solid brick of a ship.

looks cool too.

Nah, it would be fine if it had frigate's ehp and dreadnought's sig :D


Seriously, though, Rattler is fine - it's ment to be the brick and it's amazing at it. Lower damage is the price you pay for it. If you want dps, there's always Machariel and Vindicator.

Someone gives you an option to use a Lamborghini and a Bentley. Which one do you take? :) A vast majority of people will take Lamborghini, because it's faster and "cooler". In EVE, where you can't have a full monopoly on the product, that's reflected by supply and demand shaping the prices of individual hulls. It is a simple fact that people will prefer to sit in a heavy dps over a heavy tank ship. So while Rattlesnake is the second most common pirate hull on the market (only behind Machariel), it's also the lowest supply one. Not because it's bad, but because its role is unpopular. It's the same as for instance a logistics ship - you don't see very many of those in missions, do you? Yet you can't deny its role is exceptional in fleets. Rattler is the ultimate in tanking battleship, it's just that it's not very useful in alpha fleet doctrines or in missions where gank tank counts. But do something that needs capless defense and offense and the Rattler will be unbeatable.

Considering a FI Typhoon can do 1400 DPS at long range then I don't see why a Pirate BS shouldn't be able to do 400 DPS more. It's supposed to be uber FFS

I'm happy with my 'snake as it is.

If it only weren't so **** SLOW...

Doesnt the rattlesnake have the largest subcap passive shield tank in game?

Whats a passive shield tank fit look? And why is that so good compared to active tank which i assume probably has higher ehp in return for not being passive?