EVE General Discussion

Why is this thread still going? Seriously, what's your point? I explained to you that every hobby can be made to sound trivial and pointless if you boil it down to it's minutiae.

Apart from that, what's to discuss? If you're bored with the game, go do something else with your life.

You've been playing long enough that you don't need other people to tell you what activities are available in the game.

Sorry Jorden,

I think you are the exact person I was speaking about. (The "Enjoy it" as is or "get out" crowd)... the type that worry too much and find references to other failures and think it will happen again... The reasons you stated may or may not be the reason a game fails..

I would suggest a game fails because it's boring and no one wants to play it anymore. Both EVE and WOW have their audience (I don't play Wow, but friends do). Wow is not boring to many, and EVE is not boring to many. They survive, I suppose because they keep peoples interest or attachment to the game.

I am afraid though that the "new Improvements you speak of in EVE though are all so very similar to past new improvements" that they can hardly be called innovative. New ship updates, mods, etc..... more of the exact same really, just like leveling!

Let's take a look at improvements that could have been done in the TEN years EVE has been alive, but haven't been!!!

1) COCKPIT = Can you feel as though you are flying your ship? NO! There is no way of closing in on the cockpit to get a first person type of view. Why? This is something that would make the game better in every way, and would not effect the sandbox idea. It's a ten year old game, this type of experience would be a natural. Other games have proven first person views can be done, it's just CCP choice not to do it...
2) MISSIONS = Why do ALL players feel doing PVE missions are a grind? Because they haven't change in years and they are boring for the most part! Could CCP make them less boring, sure... but why, when someone will just buy a GTC and sell it for in game cash to buy ships with RL cash and avoid the grind, so there is no reason for CCP to make PVE less boring. Why no voice acting talent for missions, why no NEW missions?
3) PLANETS, MOONS, etc...= Eve is full of planets, but can you land on one and goof around? No! The existence of DUST 514 proves they could do it if they wanted to, but they don't! Would landing on a planet and rifling up someones base be cool? Darn right it would be, but we have to play a different game to do that, with a different character entirely that we have no investment in.

Innovation is different than adding a new ship, and any player who comments with a "get out" statement, feels somehow that they are entitled to something that the other gamer is not... ALL players are equal friends, and if someone takes the time to post about this game, they care - just as much as you do about it's long term value!

So you think EVE is a PVP game and all others should leave?

Well, I think EVE is a PVE game with little to no actual Player Versus Player interactions. Only Open world gangs!

So there you have it.... is it Red or just Burnt Orange? The little things lighting up on the right side of the screen?


Fact is that most players logged in spend more time in High Sec than any other place in EVE ... just look at your maps!
High Sec is for the most part considered a PVE environment with a tiny bit of risk thrown in. The busiest system on Eve is a
.9 High Sec system... I think most players in here enjoy a controlled environment first, at least the map shows that.


PS... and it's called Graphics.... it started getting popular back when Windows came out... people started to like the coolness of colors and such... (Answering your question of why have a first person experience in the Cockpit).

Who are the "others" you refer to? I don't understand. Yes, EVE is a PvP game, but I don't think anyone should leave.



Okay? You're wrong.



There are more new players/trial accounts. Skews maps and stats.



Changing the camera's vantage point would not change the "graphics."

This....


This is why I post in the EVE forum, to help the game. You have to know that once a game like Star Citizen gets going, EVE will have to change to keep up. I, like many other people bought in to the (SC) game (I'm getting the 300i) because we want a really cool space game, not just a game that you can be anyone you want to be.... mean ones included. There is a real reason they have collected over 14 million on a promise..... it's the first person, over the top graphics fun that most gamers love!!

I hope it and EVE succeed with each new INNOVATION that comes out.... I'd like to play them both.

As is = Eve is many things; interesting, fun, addicting, frustrating, cruel....among many others.... but definitely NOT innovative.! Yet, if they actually used the CQ type of character interaction and made your in game character do something first person...that would have been very innovative.... boarding ships would have been innovative, walking on planets, etc.. ground battles, all those would have been innovative.... Dust 514 for all of you who quote that game is a DIFFERENT GAME with DIFFERENT Characters.

What is the retention rate, again?

They got media attention for being the biggest Crowd funded project now.

Plus, folks have been asking for a sci-fi game without the wholesale PvP and other tomfoolery that's allowed in EvE.

So this is the market speaking out in what they want. And frankly, it's about time. Like WoW, the only game in town gets dull without competition.

In the early days of EVE, this was a pretty cool feature. But after a while, it turned into an expectation that we should accept EVE as an alternate reality, demanding vast amounts of time from players to service and protect the ownership of space.

Initially, CCP had very little to do with this, as their original sandbox rose out of the fact that they didn't have enough money to produce very much game content. So they were thrilled that players took it upon themselves and encouraged the continuation of that, by developing stuff following that direction.

It started to get a little weird when BoB controlled Delve and beyond for like 5 or 6 years, getting cockier by the day. Then came the scandal about devs in BoB having given themselves extra T2 BPOs, and things took a temporary dive. Eventually BoB got up to announcing they would push everyone out of 0.0 everywhere and into empire. I guess they were getting bored themselves and tried to make more enemies. Everything became split up among giant power blocks, that were screwing each other any way possible.

It started to look like players were emulating the annoying, screwed up state of the real world inside the game, making it a really strange choice for a place to "escape" to...

wtf???

why does this forum keep destroying my posts before I post them????

[Citation needed]



Does Blizzard pay you by the word, or by the hour to shill their brand?