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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-07-08 18:45:46 UTC
Kahlell wrote:
I suspect the OP meant per mission rather than per hour. If that's the case then yeah, it hasn't really changed much.
Per hour statistics are so misleading because there are so many factors that come into play: ship, ammo, skills, types of missions, standings, security status etc.


BerSerKer 13 wrote:
i was wondering how much has changed in the isk per hour on level 4 mission ruining



no im pretty sure he didnt mean isk per mission.

Art of Explosions
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#22 - 2013-07-08 18:57:11 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging.



U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission.


No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug.



I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible.


The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#23 - 2013-07-08 19:43:08 UTC
20mph is pretty good when they keep having walking dead marathons on TV.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#24 - 2013-07-08 22:08:02 UTC
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging.



U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission.


No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug.



I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible.


The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt.


AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot.

Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot.

Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.





internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#25 - 2013-07-08 23:27:31 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging.



U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission.


No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug.



I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible.


The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt.


AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot.

Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot.

Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.









Oh in that case:

Enemies Abound part 5; 65mil loot/salvage, 4 mil Reward

Enemies abound Part 5; 65 mil loot/salvage, 4 mil Reward

138 mil/h easy enough with one account and a noctis on the same account. Might have time to take a quick biobreak or handling a lil bit of gf aggro inbetween missions. Ill go ahed and add 10-15 mil for that. so lets say 153 mil/h/account
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#26 - 2013-07-08 23:59:48 UTC
I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.

Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#27 - 2013-07-09 00:49:22 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.

Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.



Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#28 - 2013-07-09 01:24:48 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents.

Made me stop and look at how many agent I have available now... 900 high sec LVL-4 agents available to me this week. Big smile

Why do we end up arguing with some 'know it all' in every thread when all we do is post to help? Roll

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#29 - 2013-07-09 01:37:50 UTC
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.

Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.



Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it.


If you don't care then don't reply FFS. I am trying to help someone with information that can be verified by others. Your feelings, trolling, and smug attitude are utterly irrelevant to this thread. Simply reading mission reports on Eve-survival.org will verify. Have a nice day.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
ExcalibursTemplar
CANZUK
#30 - 2013-07-09 11:35:31 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging.



U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission.


No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug.



I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible.


The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt.


AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot.

Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot.

Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.







Are you sure about that salvage rate for Gone Berserk. I know it used to be a really a really good mission to salvage but I've salvaged it recently and the payout if incredibly low. Maybe the salvage gods have been against me but I'm lucky to get 5 to 10 million from salvaging that mission now.
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#31 - 2013-07-09 12:45:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Nour Aerilon
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.

Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.



Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it.


If you don't care then don't reply FFS. I am trying to help someone with information that can be verified by others. Your feelings, trolling, and smug attitude are utterly irrelevant to this thread. Simply reading mission reports on Eve-survival.org will verify. Have a nice day.



Im helping by pointing out Forum optimists. Also Ive already posted some realistic numbers that should be possible to reach every time u go mission. I wont even comment on the exaggerations of your two handpicked missions. When u post 3 different vids of u running missions for 1 hour with the following included in the vid, I will believe u:

1) Choosing mission ritual
2) Prepping ship
3) Warping to mission
4) Warps between pockets
5) Warping back to get Noctis
6) Again warping to mission site (all 0-3 jumps)
7) Salvaging and looting
8) warping back to station
9) Add the time to sell loot
10) Accept/choose mission... U know the drill

Dont forget killing stuff while u are at it
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#32 - 2013-07-09 12:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nour Aerilon
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Nour Aerilon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.

Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.



Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it.


If you don't care then don't reply FFS. I am trying to help someone with information that can be verified by others. Your feelings, trolling, and smug attitude are utterly irrelevant to this thread. Simply reading mission reports on Eve-survival.org will verify. Have a nice day.



Im helping by pointing out Forum optimists. Also Ive already posted some realistic numbers that should be possible to reach every time u go mission. I wont even comment on the exaggerations of your two handpicked missions. When u post 3 different vids of u running missions for 1 hour with the following included in the vid, I will believe u:

1) Choosing mission ritual
2) Prepping ship
3) Warping to mission
4) Warps between pockets
5) Warping back to get Noctis
6) Again warping to mission site (all 0-3 jumps)
7) Salvaging and looting
8) warping back to station
9) Add the time to sell loot
10) Accept/choose mission... U know the drill

Dont forget killing stuff while u are at it



Well thats a fail. Welcome to delete post!
Kisaki Archess
Spectre II
#33 - 2013-07-10 11:58:50 UTC
I play roughly 2 tot 2.5 hours per day, running lvl 4 missions and i am stuck at 340m isk gained in that timeframe, this includes salvaging and warping to and from places etc etc.

170m an hour isnt too shabby a number.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-07-10 13:45:11 UTC
Kisaki Archess wrote:
I play roughly 2 tot 2.5 hours per day, running lvl 4 missions and i am stuck at 340m isk gained in that timeframe, this includes salvaging and warping to and from places etc etc.

170m an hour isnt too shabby a number.


You make 340 mil in 2 to 2.5 hours with one pilot? What ship(s) do you fly?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-07-10 13:50:39 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Kisaki Archess wrote:
I play roughly 2 tot 2.5 hours per day, running lvl 4 missions and i am stuck at 340m isk gained in that timeframe, this includes salvaging and warping to and from places etc etc.

170m an hour isnt too shabby a number.


You make 340 mil in 2 to 2.5 hours with one pilot? What ship(s) do you fly?

this is not the question you should be asking

I should buy an Ishtar.
Fox God
#36 - 2013-07-10 14:01:02 UTC
There is a lot of anger in this thread. Go do some incursions, if you aren't earning over what you can in levels 4s there, then you are doing it wrong.


But seriously a realistic expectation is 40m/h in lv4s and over 100m/h easily for incursions and upwards of over 200m/h (tcrc walls)
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#37 - 2013-07-10 14:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nour Aerilon
Fox God wrote:
There is a lot of anger in this thread. Go do some incursions, if you aren't earning over what you can in levels 4s there, then you are doing it wrong.


But seriously a realistic expectation is 40m/h in lv4s and over 100m/h easily for incursions and upwards of over 200m/h (tcrc walls)



For me, Incursions just aint the answer. I need to be able to go afk in a sec notice. I have a Passive Rattlesnake just for that reson.

EDIT: Seriously ppl need to either stop lying to new(ish) players or to themselves. Some things just aint possible (not related to quote)
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-07-10 21:48:53 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Kisaki Archess wrote:
I play roughly 2 tot 2.5 hours per day, running lvl 4 missions and i am stuck at 340m isk gained in that timeframe, this includes salvaging and warping to and from places etc etc.

170m an hour isnt too shabby a number.


You make 340 mil in 2 to 2.5 hours with one pilot? What ship(s) do you fly?

this is not the question you should be asking


What is... "Are the missions in nullsec?" I don't make nearly that much but then again I'm not uber time efficient like some players.

I bet there's a 1000 "how much ISK per hour?" threads in this forum.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#39 - 2013-07-11 18:50:25 UTC
Again, best thing to do is check mission reports. They list the total bounty and salvage in the comments and update as appropriate. Then you can see exactly how much you will make over time, and you can see how much others make over time in the "end game mission ship" you are looking to get into.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2013-07-11 18:54:31 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents.

Made me stop and look at how many agent I have available now... 900 high sec LVL-4 agents available to me this week. Big smile

Why do we end up arguing with some 'know it all' in every thread when all we do is post to help? Roll


I wish I had that. Half the universe kinda dislike me because the Caldari Navy was a good employer...
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