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"Intel HD 4000 graphics arent good enough"
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Trader Joe Jackson
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
#1 - 2013-07-11 10:33:30 UTC
I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.

So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.

So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what?
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#2 - 2013-07-11 10:37:19 UTC
I have slightly worse specs on my laptop and i get about the same performance you have had. Only issue I have with it is if there are 200+ ships on grid, then things get dicey.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Trader Joe Jackson
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
#3 - 2013-07-11 10:43:00 UTC
I am sure that if you plan to do fleet battles or something, then it is not going to work out fine. But people were making it to to be something WAY worse, like you couldnt even do encounter missions without turning into a stutterfest.
Cipher Deninard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-07-11 11:04:50 UTC
Used to play on my laptop before I built my new PC. It had Intel 3000 graphics and I ran on a mixture of mostly low settings but medium texture and shader settings. Only real problems I had was with dust clouds in missions.I couldn't go back to that after spending a few months with max settings on my new PC though.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-11 11:12:48 UTC
I also got a Intel HD 4000 graphics (i5 1.7GHz and 4GB ram) and i'm running two full screen window mode clients without lag at maximum resolution with low graphics setting.

Might not work in fleet battles, i have not tried that, but works just fine for everything else.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-11 11:25:44 UTC
Trader Joe Jackson wrote:
I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.

So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.

So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what?

get with the year 2004 mate.

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Pew Terror
All of it
#7 - 2013-07-11 11:58:18 UTC
Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000.
They even implemented some guesture support Shocked
Seth Darkness
Gang Bang You're Dead
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#8 - 2013-07-11 12:00:34 UTC
Pew Terror wrote:
Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000.
They even implemented some guesture support Shocked


Microsoft Surface Pro?
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
#9 - 2013-07-11 13:44:30 UTC
I do all my PI on a thinkpad X220
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4211/x220-tab.jpg
and most other stuff in eve that play solo..
PI with touch or pen input is great :-)
brinelan
#10 - 2013-07-11 14:34:29 UTC
They recently updated the requirements stating that while other setups may work they don't guarantee it.
Trader Joe Jackson
Shoot ship and salvage Inc
#11 - 2013-07-11 14:41:25 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
Trader Joe Jackson wrote:
I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.

So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.

So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what?

get with the year 2004 mate.


I have an ultrabook from last year...
Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-07-11 14:45:47 UTC
From a few years of experience the cards run fine for missions and mining. But fleet battles can cause a few problems and the laptop can feel sluggish with drops in fps, performance can be increased by altering the intel gfx settings to improve performance and overriding application control.

That said as long as your not in a large fleet and do not mind graphics adapters resetting every so often you should be fine.
Signal11th
#13 - 2013-07-11 14:47:18 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
Trader Joe Jackson wrote:
I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.

So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.

So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what?

get with the year 2004 mate.



Just bought a Macbook Air that runs Intel HD400 and it runs fine.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Erloas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-07-11 15:10:20 UTC
Well the integrated graphics cards like the Intel 4000 have made pretty good strides lately. The general rule before was it took a discrete card to run just about anything but that is becoming less and less the case. Granted even these new integrated graphics aren't going to do great, especially on high end games, but they do fine at lower resolutions and on older games (which EVE obviously is, 10th anniversary and all, even with the updates). It also helps that EVE isn't a twitch-based game and a drop in FPS isn't as big of a deal as it is in some other types of games.

Also minimum requirements also tend to take into account everything you can do in the game, so they will be made with large fleet battles in mind as well.
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-07-11 15:26:30 UTC
~*Don't Use Integrated Graphics*~
Pew Terror
All of it
#16 - 2013-07-11 16:35:31 UTC
Seth Darkness wrote:
Pew Terror wrote:
Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000.
They even implemented some guesture support Shocked


Microsoft Surface Pro?


Yeah, opening and closing UI's feels noticably more sluggish then on my gaming rig, but solo to small gang combat i see no difference really. Haven't tried bigger fleet fights as I only play on that on the couch when watching tv.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2013-07-11 16:50:38 UTC
Cipher Deninard wrote:
Used to play on my laptop before I built my new PC. It had Intel 3000 graphics and I ran on a mixture of mostly low settings but medium texture and shader settings. Only real problems I had was with dust clouds in missions.I couldn't go back to that after spending a few months with max settings on my new PC though.

This.

Most people were likely looking at the performance hit they took whenever they encountered an effect like a dust cloud, which would have killed your FPS on that machine.

Fortunately those were recently removed.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#18 - 2013-07-11 16:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
My netbook at 11.x inches has dual core AMD, 4gb ram, 500gb HD and dedicated Ati graphics.

Works great for such a small laptop and its a couple of years old now, very handy to carry when not requiring my 16gb 8 core laptop for heavy image processing astrophotography, reminds me to sort out an FPGA farm for processing stacks.

My small netbook playes eve fine.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2013-07-11 17:05:16 UTC
“Minimum requirement” doesn't mean “less than this and the game will not run/uninstall itself in shame/explode” — it means that they offer no guarantees that it will work or that you will see any kind of reasonable performance, and will not test for compatibility from now on. If it does (and it almost always does if it's just a spec bump rather than a specific hardware feature requirement), then great, but don't expect it to keep working.
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#20 - 2013-07-11 17:18:21 UTC
Yeah I just recently got a Vaio Pro 13 (1080p, HD4400) and was quite surprised how well the game ran on the iGPU.

Booted up one of my Jita alts, undocked from 4-4, and was pretty happy that it could even run 30 FPS. Then I checked the settings and was really amazed that it still managed that with everything turned to high, including draw distance and shadows; stuff that I usually turn off even on my SLIed up gaming desktop. Turning everything to low except shaders and textures which I left at medium gave me a very playable experience that hovered at the 50-60 FPS mark. Still need to see how it performs in a fleet fight, but I think as long as I zoom out and turn brackets off it should be absolutely fine.

Integrated graphics is getting quite impressive these days, easily enough for low to mid end games like EVE and Dota2 at moderate settings. Still a long ways off being able to run games like Crysis3 at playable settings and resolution, but given the way things have been shaping up, that day is only a few years away
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