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Financial Fraud, Cartels, Monopoly, API's and you.

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RAW23
#121 - 2013-07-11 13:27:51 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
Also, does someone want to bring MD audits into the conversation or would that just be cruel? Twisted


Raw, that would be very very naughty to do that Twisted


You're right. It would be best if no-one mentions that some of the posters in this thread are firm supporters of API min.. errr ... checking when it come to auditing public borrowers. He might think that I ... I mean we ... have some sort of agenda. And for god's sake no-one mention Bobby's connection to the audit fund or we might tip the OP over the edge!

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Rhodopsin Pserad
Ho Theos Geometrei
#122 - 2013-07-11 14:10:22 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Rhivre wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
Also, does someone want to bring MD audits into the conversation or would that just be cruel? Twisted


Raw, that would be very very naughty to do that Twisted


You're right. It would be best if no-one mentions that some of the posters in this thread are firm supporters of API min.. errr ... checking when it come to auditing public borrowers. He might think that I ... I mean we ... have some sort of agenda. And for god's sake no-one mention Bobby's connection to the audit fund or we might tip the OP over the edge!


I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm certainly not looking for a loan, but I would expect if I requested one to turn over a financial API in that circumstance, even if they decided to mine that data. That clearly is a sensible use of API financials, however, loans are not an in game feature, or CCP could create contracts for them which would be generally far more secure for everyone involved and, likely, eliminate most need for auditing potential borrowers' API's.

"Does the Eagle know what is in the pit, Or wilt thou go ask the Mole? Can Wisdom be put in a silver rod, Or Love in a golden bowl?"  "Above all, you can believe in Providence in either of two ways, either as thirst believes in the orange, or as the ass believes in the whip."
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#123 - 2013-07-11 14:53:35 UTC
7 pages of people trying to convince someone too stupid to realise his own stupidity that he is wrong.

My only wish is that I could say threads like this are rare Cry


The only merit is that you somehow scrambled together the mental agility to use an alt to post this thread so if you did ever change your mind on APIs (and someone actually wanted to recruit you) you may be able to join a corp in the future.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#124 - 2013-07-11 14:58:26 UTC  |  Edited by: arabella blood
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
7 pages of people trying to convince someone too stupid to realise his own stupidity that he is wrong.

My only wish is that I could say threads like this are rare Cry


The only merit is that you somehow scrambled together the mental agility to use an alt to post this thread so if you did ever change your mind on APIs (and someone actually wanted to recruit you) you may be able to join a corp in the future.


He says that only proves we are all in on it!!

And its true, there were a convention, and we all decided to do it together.

I think the OP finally figured us out, nothing is safe anymore...hide your daugthers, hide your api's...

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#125 - 2013-07-11 15:15:42 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:
7 pages of people trying to convince someone too stupid to realise his own stupidity that he is wrong.

My only wish is that I could say threads like this are rare Cry


The only merit is that you somehow scrambled together the mental agility to use an alt to post this thread so if you did ever change your mind on APIs (and someone actually wanted to recruit you) you may be able to join a corp in the future.


He says that only proves we are all in on it!!

And its true, there were a convention, and we all decided to do it together.

I think the OP finally figured us out, nothing is safe anymore...hide your daugthers, hide your api's...


You didn't get the memo? It was sent encoded in a Disney movie.

Meeting at 2200 this evening, Bohemian Grove, just behind the owl, bring your best wizards hat and robe.

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RAW23
#126 - 2013-07-11 15:25:17 UTC
Rhodopsin Pserad wrote:


I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm certainly not looking for a loan, but I would expect if I requested one to turn over a financial API in that circumstance, even if they decided to mine that data. That clearly is a sensible use of API financials, however, loans are not an in game feature, or CCP could create contracts for them which would be generally far more secure for everyone involved and, likely, eliminate most need for auditing potential borrowers' API's.



Let me get this straight:

a1) You are willing to give out your financial API to an auditor you don’t know and whose status as a trustworthy individual is determined by the respect in which they are held by the regular posters on MD.

a2) You won’t trust the recruiting officer of a corp you want to join with your financial API, despite opting to associate with that corp and its members voluntarily and the recruiting officer being assigned a trustworthy status by the group you actively wish to join.

b1) You will trust the MD auditor with your financial data despite the fact that they will explicitly be deeply interested in the markets and businesses of eve.

b2) You will not trust the corp recruiter because he might secretly be interested in the markets.

c1) You have rejected the comments of posters in this thread as coming from an untrustworthy cabal who have an interest in perpetuating data-mining from the API.

c2) You will trust an MD auditor whose status is derived in significant part from the fact that they are vouched for by some of the people in this thread whose advice you have rejected.

Do you not see some inconsistency in these positions?

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#127 - 2013-07-11 15:25:33 UTC
LOL, is still own a copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of MD"....

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arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#128 - 2013-07-11 15:27:43 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Rhodopsin Pserad wrote:


I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm certainly not looking for a loan, but I would expect if I requested one to turn over a financial API in that circumstance, even if they decided to mine that data. That clearly is a sensible use of API financials, however, loans are not an in game feature, or CCP could create contracts for them which would be generally far more secure for everyone involved and, likely, eliminate most need for auditing potential borrowers' API's.



Let me get this straight:

a1) You are willing to give out your financial API to an auditor you don’t know and whose status as a trustworthy individual is determined by the respect in which they are held by the regular posters on MD.

a2) You won’t trust the recruiting officer of a corp you want to join with your financial API, despite opting to associate with that corp and its members voluntarily and the recruiting officer being assigned a trustworthy status by the group you actively wish to join.

b1) You will trust the MD auditor with your financial data despite the fact that they will explicitly be deeply interested in the markets and businesses of eve.

b2) You will not trust the corp recruiter because he might secretly be interested in the markets.

c1) You have rejected the comments of posters in this thread as coming from an untrustworthy cabal who have an interest in perpetuating data-mining from the API.

c2) You will trust an MD auditor whose status is derived in significant part from the fact that they are vouched for by some of the people in this thread whose advice you have rejected.

Do you not see some inconsistency in these positions?



I can't believe we missed it - BIPOLAR!!

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RAW23
#129 - 2013-07-11 15:28:13 UTC
Rhivre wrote:


Meeting at 2200 this evening, Bohemian Grove, just behind the owl, bring your best wizards hat and robe.


That's just for the neophytes. The real meeting is at midnight (obviously), inside the owl, and we will all be skyclad.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#130 - 2013-07-11 15:34:44 UTC
Sorry I have consecrated all my cares! Cool

Also I swapped from owls to roosters..

arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#131 - 2013-07-11 15:34:45 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Rhivre wrote:


Meeting at 2200 this evening, Bohemian Grove, just behind the owl, bring your best wizards hat and robe.


That's just for the neophytes. The real meeting is at midnight (obviously), inside the owl, and we will all be skyclad.


It didn't specify..will there be a sacred orgy?
i can bring lube Twisted

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#132 - 2013-07-11 15:51:43 UTC
RAW23 wrote:


That's just for the neophytes. The real meeting is at midnight (obviously), inside the owl, and we will all be skyclad.


*Static*

Jita, we have a problem
Cover is blown, I repeat, cover is blown

All operatives to report to the safe location

Communication to be kept to back channels only

Green Lizard has gone rogue

I repeat, Green Lizard has gone rogue

No contact is to be made with this operative, he will be dealt with as soon as we locate him

All communication to be routed via Pink Zydrine

*Transmission ends*

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#133 - 2013-07-11 15:55:41 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
RAW23 wrote:


That's just for the neophytes. The real meeting is at midnight (obviously), inside the owl, and we will all be skyclad.


*Static*

Jita, we have a problem
Cover is blown, I repeat, cover is blown

All operatives to report to the safe location

Communication to be kept to back channels only

Green Lizard has gone rogue

I repeat, Green Lizard has gone rogue

No contact is to be made with this operative, he will be dealt with as soon as we locate him

All communication to be routed via Pink Zydrine

*Transmission ends*


Why you post it here? we agreed on using the designated RF signal!
and if that fails - smoke signals...

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#134 - 2013-07-11 16:00:04 UTC
RF cannot be trusted.

It has been discovered that RF and BF are double agents, possibly triple, our algorithm only goes to two factors.

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arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#135 - 2013-07-11 16:39:24 UTC
So the homing pigeons i contracted to you isn't good enough anymore??
give it back man, its not funny to take my toys from me :/

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#136 - 2013-07-11 16:49:39 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
So the homing pigeons i contracted to you isn't good enough anymore??
give it back man, its not funny to take my toys from me :/



Our logs show nothing

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arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#137 - 2013-07-11 16:54:59 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
arabella blood wrote:
So the homing pigeons i contracted to you isn't good enough anymore??
give it back man, its not funny to take my toys from me :/



Our logs show nothing


Thats not your alt holding MY pigeon?? ShockedShockedShocked

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Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-07-11 16:57:41 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
RF cannot be trusted.

It has been discovered that RF and BF are double agents, possibly triple, our algorithm only goes to two factors.

I think he meant Radio Frequency.

But I can confirm that RF/BF is a Hydra side project who's purpose is to log the contents of all your packages, their origin/destination, and ruthlessly exploit it.

Bokononist

 
RAW23
#139 - 2013-07-11 17:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
arabella blood wrote:
So the homing pigeons i contracted to you isn't good enough anymore


The Homing Pigeons? No ... the code ... it runs too deep.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#140 - 2013-07-11 17:28:15 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
Rhivre wrote:
RF cannot be trusted.

It has been discovered that RF and BF are double agents, possibly triple, our algorithm only goes to two factors.

I think he meant Radio Frequency.

But I can confirm that RF/BF is a Hydra side project who's purpose is to log the contents of all your packages, their origin/destination, and ruthlessly exploit it.


I meant both. Shocked


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