Ships & Modules

Cruise missiles would make it too effective against smaller targets while torpedoes, while not as good as other turret weapon systems restrict it to their intended targets.

yeah because no-one uses the drake anymore <--used this because they didnt have a /slap one

Ah, of course.

Nevermind the fact an arty tornado or tach oracle can easily hit smaller targets for more damage than a cruise missile on a naga ever could and let's certainly not bring up the fact torps "intended target," list is restricted to slow BS with larget sig and caps/structures.

Cruise missiles: initial reasons not to have them were because of the following combination:


* Hit smaller targets: may be made to reliably hit smaller targets with target painters/rigs
* Reliable projection: they have a fairly long range, within which the Naga doesn't have to worry about capacitor or transversal velocity
* Mobility: Naga can use points above to deliver long range constant damage while being quite difficult to catch itself


You could argue points above are not always applicable and you would be right, which is why cruise missiles are still being considered. However, it they are introduced into the Naga, hybrid bonuses most likely will be removed from it

I was curious about the Naga’s design choice of being a torpedo boat. I envisioned it much more as a cruise missile platform. Torpedos are already seen fitted to Ravens, Typhoons, and of course Stealth Bombers, whereas cruise missiles are really one viable on Ravens, and rarely seen in PvP.

If the Tier 3 BC’s are designed for assaults on very large targets, this would negate some of the very weaknesses of cruise missiles- the large explosion radius, and the delay between launch and impact during large bombardments. Cruises would hit for maximum damage against capital ships due to their massive size, and could truly make the most of a damage bonus or rate of fire bonus. This would give Caldari an opportunity to use this weapon outside of PvE. And, of course, you’d still be quite vulnerable to smaller ships getting a tackle on you.

Lets say your gang had a capital ship scrambled – the takedown would take long enough that a squad of Nagas beginning a bombardment with cruise missiles would still make a big impact on the DPS, and be able to do while keeping range and avoiding defenses like heavy neuts. They wouldn’t be fat sitting ducks like a cruise raven either, and can take advantage of the fact that the speed of your ship and transversal won’t affect your DPS while orbiting and bombing your target.

If the goal is to make the Naga flexible at range and up close, than you could still use the optimal range bonus to enhance 8 large blasters, though obviously not living up to the Talos in terms of DPS. I think at very minimum the bonus should be changed to allow for cruise missile setups, if not getting a specialized bonus to cruise missiles.

Any thoughts from the developers or players on cruisey Nagas?

I bolded the good part.

Here is hoping.

In that case the Oracle should only be able to fit Pulse lazers!!!

I'm also quite aware of why cruise missiles dont work for "sniping", though I didn't know they could hit small stuff effectively. I haven't run a mission in highsec for probably 18 months, and I've never seen them in a PvP scenario, which was the reason for my initial question. I was simply curious why the Naga couldn't have been used to give a (seemingly) underused weapon system some measure of effectiveness, through bonuses perhaps, but I see now how they wouldn't fit well with the role.

I underlined the answer to your question

Cruise Naga = useless naga.
In fleets you want instant damage at long range. No one wants their damage to take several seconds to arrive. Hence guns on Naga. Hence why you don't see many PVP cruise ravens, aside from the failbear fits

Cruise Naga = useless naga.
In fleets you want instant damage at long range. No one wants their damage to take several seconds to arrive. Hence guns on Naga. Hence why you don't see many PVP cruise ravens, aside from the failbear fits