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no love for the phoon fleet?
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Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#21 - 2011-11-07 16:56:46 UTC
Kesshisan wrote:

I agree. It's looking more and more like I need to eat crow. The Typhoon Fleet Issue is a much better ship for the isk than I first thought.


No, it sucks. It's a terrible pointless upgrade for a terrible ship. You'll probably explode as soon as you undock. Don't tell anyone anything else.
Kesshisan
#22 - 2011-11-07 17:57:13 UTC
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
Kesshisan wrote:

I agree. It's looking more and more like I need to eat crow. The Typhoon Fleet Issue is a much better ship for the isk than I first thought.


No, it sucks. It's a terrible pointless upgrade for a terrible ship. You'll probably explode as soon as you undock. Don't tell anyone anything else.


Not entirely sure why but two quotes here come to mind:

"I thought I was wrong once, but I found out later I was mistaken. "
And
"I tried to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes until he started shooting me."
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#23 - 2011-11-07 17:58:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Go Diveher
Not sure what's not to love:



[Typhoon Fleet Issue, Gank Needle] - 3% grid implant to fit
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II

Warp Disruptor II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Stasis Webifier II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

1020 / 1143(OH) DPS
152k EHP before boosts - 230k best single character (slaves & Heat)
1500m/s
THREE heavy neuts
<350mil (I forget the exact cost)

If you lack a few fitting skills, drop the meta level on the neuts.

You can also fiddle the highs slightly, and use these in with some rep domis to fill their lack of DPS. The only thing it can't do, is operate at large fleet engagement ranges.
EDIT: and anything smaller than a BC leads to poor applied DPS.
Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#24 - 2011-11-07 20:12:50 UTC
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
Not sure what's not to love:


The only thing it can't do, is operate at large fleet engagement ranges.
EDIT: and anything smaller than a BC leads to poor applied DPS.

These things.
Amitious Turkey
10kSubnautic
Warriors of the Blood God
#25 - 2011-11-07 23:35:58 UTC
After reading this thread, I realized...I need a 'phoon.

I like to lick things.

Haunting the forums since 03.
Songbird
#26 - 2011-11-08 01:18:04 UTC
3 way split of the weap0n systems - it is very very bad.

Remember that time, just after you started the game and you put some ac's and some artillery in your newbie ship just so you can deal with threats that are far away and ones that are close.
Remember what the newbie corp smarty pants told you - never ever mix your guns.

Typhoon is basically mixed guns.

now if it was 7/7 or even 8/8 turrets/missile launchers -well that would be a sweet ship - look for example at the new caldari tier 3 - 8 torps 8 hybrids.

As it is now it's crap with very limited and highly specialized uses.
Lili Lu
#27 - 2011-11-08 01:53:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
Songbird is a phoon hater Sad

I'm a phoon lover Big smile

The fleet phoon can make a good mission ship or pvp ship properly fit and properly skilled (< which is not easy). It is not worth much for incursions. There are some other threads that talk about phoons and fleet phoons, do a search and read those. Just to answer your title, yes there is love for (some lovers of) fleet phoons.
Potato IQ
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-11-08 13:23:38 UTC
Lili Lu wrote:
Songbird is a phoon hater Sad

I'm a phoon lover Big smile.


I’m with you. Let’s unite and shoot Songbird as he stoopid pottymouth
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-11-08 13:42:55 UTC
SongBird has written nigh poetically on some of the Mach threads so I vote to spare him...

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-11-08 14:39:47 UTC
Songbird wrote:
3 way split of the weap0n systems - it is very very bad.

Remember that time, just after you started the game and you put some ac's and some artillery in your newbie ship just so you can deal with threats that are far away and ones that are close.
Remember what the newbie corp smarty pants told you - never ever mix your guns.

Typhoon is basically mixed guns.

now if it was 7/7 or even 8/8 turrets/missile launchers -well that would be a sweet ship - look for example at the new caldari tier 3 - 8 torps 8 hybrids.

As it is now it's crap with very limited and highly specialized uses.



thing is, the "highly" specialized use of the 'phoon is being a jack of all trades.

and it works. making the damn thing even more flexible but balanced would be quite hard, specially when you combine the inherent agility and speed of the ship.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Vaurion Infara
Doomheim
#31 - 2011-11-09 02:59:24 UTC
http://bydi.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=78504

^ Ignore the naysayers. Fleet Phoon is a sexy, sexy beast.

this is it
Bomberlocks
Bombercorp
#32 - 2011-11-09 03:41:53 UTC
river Zateki wrote:
Phoon makes a great ship for almost anything, but by the time you get the skills for that youll have isk rolling out your butt for better things. The things great in the fact that it can use missile and turrets AND full flight of sentry drones+extras. Oh and hase damage mods for the weapon systems too and a winner lowslot layout. Oh and it looks like a needle =P

The turret phoon with dual 425mms, two heavy neuts, a med smarty, mwd, point, web, cap booster, plate, dcu, hardeners and gyro makes a pretty awesome BC killer. Just don't sb your own drones.
Bomberlocks
Bombercorp
#33 - 2011-11-09 03:47:29 UTC
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
Not sure what's not to love:



[Typhoon Fleet Issue, Gank Needle] - 3% grid implant to fit
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II

Warp Disruptor II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Stasis Webifier II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

1020 / 1143(OH) DPS
152k EHP before boosts - 230k best single character (slaves & Heat)
1500m/s
THREE heavy neuts
<350mil (I forget the exact cost)

If you lack a few fitting skills, drop the meta level on the neuts.

You can also fiddle the highs slightly, and use these in with some rep domis to fill their lack of DPS. The only thing it can't do, is operate at large fleet engagement ranges.
EDIT: and anything smaller than a BC leads to poor applied DPS.

Good luck running those neuts without a cap booster.
Vaurion Infara
Doomheim
#34 - 2011-11-09 04:24:02 UTC
Vaurion Infara wrote:
http://bydi.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=78504

^ Ignore the naysayers. Fleet Phoon is a sexy, sexy beast.


In case you're too lazy to click, the fit for this particular boat is

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Internal Force Field Array I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

Siege Missile Launcher II
Siege Missile Launcher II
Siege Missile Launcher II
Siege Missile Launcher II
Siege Missile Launcher II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5


1200+ DPS, 200k+ EHP, no capacitor required.

this is it
Ruah Piskonit
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2011-11-09 13:49:54 UTC
the eft is strong here - especially strong with phoon threads in general.
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