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BEHOLD THE RAILS BUFF

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#1 - 2013-07-10 22:43:29 UTC
Posted by CCP Rise on Twitter: http://i.imgur.com/jD85X5F.png

EFT says this same fit only has 302 DPS

-5x T2 200mm rails
-caldari Navy Antimatter
-2x T2 Mag Stabs
-All 5s skills

can you say I WANNA ROKH?!?!

The Drake is a Lie

Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2013-07-10 23:10:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Hmmm we shall see.

Edit: INB4AAW Lol

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-07-10 23:22:23 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
These are medium rails. People have been asking for a medium rail buff since forever.
I seriously doubt he's going to buff large rails. Most likely those aren't going to get touched at all. They're pretty balanced currently.

(Also, medium beam lasers need a buff too)

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-07-10 23:22:54 UTC
Still can't track a battleship w/o a prop mod, unless that also gets addressed.

Thank You Obama!

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2013-07-10 23:30:05 UTC
Cant wait to play with my 200mm rail Ferox after the buff.... ooooooh tingles.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#6 - 2013-07-10 23:59:33 UTC
This is true, smalls and heavies and capitals haven't been addressed specifically.

This smells like a total rail re-balance to me though...

If medium rails are getting a 30% DPS both then maybe larges might see 10% or something instead, or none at all. This remains to be seen...

We demand stickied F&I thread!

The Drake is a Lie

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2013-07-11 00:13:35 UTC
My Dual 150mm Thorax will become FOTM. Muhahahahaha.

*buys out the 2x150mm rail market*

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Jassmin Joy
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#8 - 2013-07-11 01:23:51 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
These are medium rails. People have been asking for a medium rail buff since forever.
I seriously doubt he's going to buff large rails. Most likely those aren't going to get touched at all. They're pretty balanced currently.

(Also, medium beam lasers need a buff too)


i'm trying to imagine the horror of nullsec if they buffed Large, LR naga fleets. LR naga fleets everywhere.
Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-07-11 02:42:32 UTC
Jassmin Joy wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
These are medium rails. People have been asking for a medium rail buff since forever.
I seriously doubt he's going to buff large rails. Most likely those aren't going to get touched at all. They're pretty balanced currently.

(Also, medium beam lasers need a buff too)


i'm trying to imagine the horror of nullsec if they buffed Large, LR naga fleets. LR naga fleets everywhere.



Rokh fleets. Mega fleets.

Rails everywhere.

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Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-11 06:47:31 UTC
The rokh is already my favourite ship to fly, if they buff all rails it will be even better! All hail the Rokh!

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#11 - 2013-07-11 07:33:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#12 - 2013-07-11 08:11:54 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


(Also, medium beam lasers need a buff too)


I know haven't seen a use yet for medium beams due to them blowing UghStraightCry
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Apocryphal Noise
The Harpooner's Rest
#13 - 2013-07-11 08:24:03 UTC
It's specifically a medium rail buff. Large rails are already the choice weapon in bloc warfare. The Rokh in particular, is the premiere battleship of the line for most alliances. Medium rails are ******* atrocious though but I doubt they make it through with the ~40% buff they have now.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-07-11 09:16:23 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Apocryphal Noise wrote:
It's specifically a medium rail buff. Large rails are already the choice weapon in bloc warfare. The Rokh in particular, is the premiere battleship of the line for most alliances. Medium rails are ******* atrocious though but I doubt they make it through with the ~40% buff they have now.

Well the Rokh at least for the CFC was mostly an alphafleet alternative for people who didn't want to use the Maelstrom. The coalition doctrine is now the rail Mega, probably owing to the fact that armor tackle is far more durable than shield tackle. However for RAZOR and several other alliances the rail Naga has been and continues to be extremely powerful in its own right.

Any buff to large rails would put them over the top.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#15 - 2013-07-11 11:25:52 UTC
WH effect sorcery?

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-11 11:38:31 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Posted by CCP Rise on Twitter: http://i.imgur.com/jD85X5F.png

EFT says this same fit only has 302 DPS

-5x T2 200mm rails
-caldari Navy Antimatter
-2x T2 Mag Stabs
-All 5s skills

can you say I WANNA ROKH?!?!



If we wondered why CCP doesn't understand why Gallente was that terrible, got a bit better and still needs some attention, now we now why.

If I undock with my ship full skills no implants and says 300dps (just for numbers) I have to assume CCP reads 600.

I thought they used roman numbers like us and had same significance, apparently it doesn't. Does anyone have a numbers translator so I can figure out how much dps my Megathron does in CCP numbers?

Lol

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-07-11 11:41:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Any buff to large rails would put them over the top.


Large rails numbers seem ok, it's the ammo that needs some attention now imho

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-07-11 12:44:30 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Posted by CCP Rise on Twitter: http://i.imgur.com/jD85X5F.png

EFT says this same fit only has 302 DPS

-5x T2 200mm rails
-caldari Navy Antimatter
-2x T2 Mag Stabs
-All 5s skills

can you say I WANNA ROKH?!?!



If we wondered why CCP doesn't understand why Gallente was that terrible, got a bit better and still needs some attention, now we now why.


Well, even a WoW newbie to EvE could figure that out.

Took but a couple to missions to see that hybrids have worse DPS than healers can dish out. Ugh

Gallente's need for drones to make up for the lack of firepower was probably CCP's idea in keeping rails nerfed (which would make them OP at range). Since Caldari and Minmatar has missiles not a huge loss of firepower (but limits the factions what ships they can fly). Due to those mechanics is why I never touched their ships. It's like playing a Hunter in WoW, and if that's not how you like to play, Gallente wouldn't be appealing anyhow (still won't touch their ships with the buff. Duck tape is better still!).

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Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-07-11 13:45:17 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Gallente's need for drones to make up for the lack of firepower was probably CCP's idea in keeping rails nerfed (which would make them OP at range). Since Caldari and Minmatar has missiles not a huge loss of firepower (but limits the factions what ships they can fly). Due to those mechanics is why I never touched their ships. It's like playing a Hunter in WoW, and if that's not how you like to play, Gallente wouldn't be appealing anyhow (still won't touch their ships with the buff. Duck tape is better still!).


Nobody cares about your class preference in WoW, or how it somehow correlates to what you think Gallente ships are capable of (because: you're wrong.)
Whitehound
#20 - 2013-07-12 10:08:23 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
EFT says this same fit only has 302 DPS

With T2 rig, implants and officer mag stabs can it be pushed to 419 DPS before overheat.

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