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Arthas Romanov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-07-10 07:14:04 UTC
Thank god almighty, the traitors harem has been removed.


Let us rejoice in the day the lord has made....now if only we could find the traitors body..

The facism of the state can only be cleansed from within.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-07-10 08:31:48 UTC
Ninavask wrote:
Does this mean the Gallente and Caldari might consider peace again?


I hope not.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#23 - 2013-07-10 10:55:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Saya Ishikari
An event long in the making, but long overdue, in my opinion. That many had to perish within the State before it happened is testament to the grip this 'era' had on the Caldari as a whole. I'm glad, very glad, that we're turning back to our roots now, and that Heth-guri is getting the recognition he deserves... As an abnormality, and a traitor. Let this be the end of his legacy...

And may the State, and every Caldari within it, find renewed purpose.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
#24 - 2013-07-10 11:55:19 UTC
It warms me to see that the Caldari have finally returned rule to those with Sanity..I hope that this only leads to prosperity for Our Allies in the State

Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#25 - 2013-07-10 12:27:08 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Ninavask wrote:
Does this mean the Gallente and Caldari might consider peace again?


I hope not.


Yes let us instead hope for the continued needless deaths of countless men and women who are misguided into killing each other over the fear (and lie) that the other side wishes nothing short of the annihilation of their existence.

You really are a piece of work Vikarion.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#26 - 2013-07-10 13:53:10 UTC
Let's not forget why Heth rose to power - he was a necessary evil, after all. Now we can move on, seeing as he has outlived both his merit and his necessity for quite some while.

Those sueing for peace - I suggest meeting up somewhere to form a drum circle, stock up on some sooth sayer and exchange your progressive thoughts that all will be nice if we'd just learn to hold hands properly. I for one don't see how all the conflicts with the federation are magically solved by cleaning house.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-07-10 14:02:34 UTC
As a rule, the house is very hard to clean if people continue to insist on breaking stuff and making a mess.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Anslo
Scope Works
#28 - 2013-07-10 14:25:38 UTC
Good luck to the Citizens of the State in moving forward. I wish you fair winds and gentle tides as you press on.

And here's hoping something resembling peace might be hammered out and implemented between us after all this.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#29 - 2013-07-10 14:35:16 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
As a rule, the house is very hard to clean if people continue to insist on breaking stuff and making a mess.

Indeed. The problem that led to Heth's rise to power was corporate nepotism and apathy to the welfare of the citizenry. Sure, Heth stopped the corporations from doing that, but he replaced it by his organization doing that.

Moving a problem does not make it go away
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-07-10 14:42:33 UTC
Exactly. I'm cautiously optimistic, but ridding ourselves of the CPD isn't an automatic meritocratic golden age. If we want that, we're going to have to work for it.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-07-10 15:35:09 UTC
Making such decisions behind his back is simply mean!
Do you hear me, CEP?! This is simply mean!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-07-10 15:43:49 UTC
Really? Mean?

What next, are you going to call them doody-faces?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Dahacai Laguz
Rust Creeps
#33 - 2013-07-10 15:54:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Dahacai Laguz
Now all I need is Heth crashing down through Intaki Prime's atmosphere in a cargo container.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-07-10 16:14:23 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
It strikes me that Heth forgot the very lesson he wished the executive class to learn; that just as the worker owes loyalty and service to the corporation and the State, the corporation and the State owe loyalty and service to the worker.

It was this failure by executives that brought Heth to power; it was Heth's single-minded drive to war that caused him to fail in this task as well.

Let us hope the lesson was well learned, and that the State, forged in the fire of trial, becomes stronger than it was before.


Slander doesn't make speaker of slanders look better.
Tibus Heth always works for regular citizens. All his reforms were for the sake of common workers and citizens of the State. Where were you when all these changes did happen? Not among citizens for sure... then where? Crawling somewhere in a pit full of dissidents, outcasts and other refusals far away from the State, so you couldn't see even a single commoner to notice how we started to live better?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-07-10 16:25:09 UTC
Dahacai Laguz wrote:
Now all I need is Heth crashing down through Intaki Prime's atmosphere in a cargo container.

I will protect Caldari citizens until last drop of my blood. This includes former Executor Tibus Heth.
Even if I will have to kill every one of you, whole your race and civilization, exterminate every children and elders and make your planets not suitable for life !
Because all your peoples together don't cost as much as his life!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Ninavask
Alexylva Paradox
#36 - 2013-07-10 16:34:56 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Dahacai Laguz wrote:
Now all I need is Heth crashing down through Intaki Prime's atmosphere in a cargo container.

I will protect Caldari citizens until last drop of my blood. This includes former Executor Tibus Heth.
Even if I will have to kill every one of you, whole your race and civilization, exterminate every children and elders and make your planets not suitable for life !
Because all your peoples together don't cost as much as his life!

The words of a potential war criminal, of not one already....

Dr. Ninavask Revan

Colonist

Alexylva Paradox

The views above are the opinions and beliefs of Dr. Ninavask and do in no way reflect on his employeers or associates at the time of posting.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#37 - 2013-07-10 17:06:12 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Slander doesn't make speaker of slanders look better.
Tibus Heth always works for regular citizens. All his reforms were for the sake of common workers and citizens of the State. Where were you when all these changes did happen? Not among citizens for sure... then where? Crawling somewhere in a pit full of dissidents, outcasts and other refusals far away from the State, so you couldn't see even a single commoner to notice how we started to live better?


Kim-haani, I took an extended stay planet-side due to a death in the family. Surely you'd understand.

As for his meritocratic reforms -- I agree that an effort was needed. However, even within Kaalakiota Corporation, over which Heth had direct authority, the effectiveness of those reforms is in doubt.

Consider: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/reports-of-unrest-among-kaalakiota-factory-workers/

"...when Executor Heth came into power, he implemented a number of reforms that were supposed to help us workers out. But half of them haven't made a difference and the other half are being ignored completely. We know he's a busy man, so he probably doesn't even know what's going on. We've tried to tell him, but our voices have been stymied by middle management who doesn't want things to change."

And so they protested, with tragic results.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/home-guard-and-state-peacekeepers-attack-defenseless-protestors-concord-intervenes-too-late/

In response to this tragedy, the executives responsible resigned, and were branded traitors-- not for failing to enact reforms, but for resigning over the mishandled crisis. Clearly, to Heth, they were operatives on behalf of the Gallente Federation.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/numerous-caldari-management-resign-heth-promises-significant-investigations/

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/provists-arrest-at-least-five-executives-supposed-federation-operatives/

Kim-haani, I respect your dedication. But considering all that occurred, perhaps what I said is not slander. You may wish to think on that.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-07-10 17:22:24 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Slander doesn't make speaker of slanders look better.
Tibus Heth always works for regular citizens. All his reforms were for the sake of common workers and citizens of the State. Where were you when all these changes did happen? Not among citizens for sure... then where? Crawling somewhere in a pit full of dissidents, outcasts and other refusals far away from the State, so you couldn't see even a single commoner to notice how we started to live better?


Kim-haani, I took an extended stay planet-side due to a death in the family. Surely you'd understand.

As for his meritocratic reforms -- I agree that an effort was needed. However, even within Kaalakiota Corporation, over which Heth had direct authority, the effectiveness of those reforms is in doubt.

Consider: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/reports-of-unrest-among-kaalakiota-factory-workers/

"...when Executor Heth came into power, he implemented a number of reforms that were supposed to help us workers out. But half of them haven't made a difference and the other half are being ignored completely. We know he's a busy man, so he probably doesn't even know what's going on. We've tried to tell him, but our voices have been stymied by middle management who doesn't want things to change."

And so they protested, with tragic results.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/home-guard-and-state-peacekeepers-attack-defenseless-protestors-concord-intervenes-too-late/

In response to this tragedy, the executives responsible resigned, and were branded traitors-- not for failing to enact reforms, but for resigning over the mishandled crisis. Clearly, to Heth, they were operatives on behalf of the Gallente Federation.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/numerous-caldari-management-resign-heth-promises-significant-investigations/

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/provists-arrest-at-least-five-executives-supposed-federation-operatives/

Kim-haani, I respect your dedication. But considering all that occurred, perhaps what I said is not slander. You may wish to think on that.


1. All Gallente agents must be found out and disposed
2. Every Caldari should be ready to sacrifice some lives for greater numbers of lives to survive.
That they are making media drama because of it, it is just a Gallentean propaganda!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Dahacai Laguz
Rust Creeps
#39 - 2013-07-10 17:26:03 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Dahacai Laguz wrote:
Now all I need is Heth crashing down through Intaki Prime's atmosphere in a cargo container.

I will protect Caldari citizens until last drop of my blood. This includes former Executor Tibus Heth.
Even if I will have to kill every one of you, whole your race and civilization, exterminate every children and elders and make your planets not suitable for life !
Because all your peoples together don't cost as much as his life!


Maybe you'd like to join him? Sealed together in a coffin, launched from orbit and heading to impending doom. How romantic, heh heh.
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#40 - 2013-07-11 00:46:23 UTC
I am very proud of my people this day.