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Pissed theres no nice way to say it

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Mycael
Air
The Initiative.
#61 - 2013-07-10 06:35:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mycael
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:
why did you have your safety off while mission running anyway?


my safety was on until i seen the person looting and as far as i knew you had to change it to attack anywhere so i did and of course the person had help from the police before yea i was in the wrong because i spend a few hours on this one long mission and sure enough here's someone savaging wrecks so like any other game why shouldn't i be able to fire on them? So i shot them and concord saves the day! but im in the wrong i forgot... its a profession but its the same thing as looting someones can but w/e


This post and the original only shows how clueless you are about the game. You f'd up.

Edit: And move away from highsec. Problem solved.
Roxxo I'doCocaine
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-07-10 07:04:24 UTC
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
...as far as i knew...


The problem seems to revolve around the short length of the above stated measurement.

OP tried to apply his WOW knowledge to EvE, resulting in the loss of his ships and now desperately seeks validation from other players to sooth his bruised ego. All of you heartless C&P denizens are instead refusing to cooperate, taking the opportunity to troll the OP with facts and policy statements gleaned from this painfully old debate.

If it helps you feel any better about it OP, I can tell you that once upon a time it was easy to get other carebears to jump on the "salvaging is broken" bandwagon. You would have had several supporting replies by now. However, this argument has been made and refuted so many times by now that your entire thread is a cliche'. The bottom line is that CCP has already heard all sides of this, and in response to your concerns has graced us with the Noctis to combat ninjas. With its ridiculous tractor-beam range and salvaging speed, it really makes it almost impossible to salvage the missions of those who actually care. As far as "difficult to swallow" mechanics go, I have yet to read a rational explanation for why tractor beams won't work on yellow wrecks.
Lavitias Arjar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2013-07-10 07:18:25 UTC
*dons tinfoil hat*

The creatures living in the tractor beams are to scared to touch yellow colored stuff.
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2013-07-10 07:20:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Froggy Storm
Cannibal Kane wrote:
oh hi there future war target.



Oh Mr. Kane you always make me laugh and my coworkers look at me oddly.

OP,
If you haven't left by now please allow me to try to explain why you are getting so much attention from this forum. Once upon a time there was no safety switch. The aggression mechanics were often obscure to new players and the predators actively tried to mislead you into violating them. As such, the groaning and bashing of teeth over adding this safety switch was pretty loud.

In your case, you voluntarily chose to over ride a mechanic that was put in place to protect you from making a 850m mistake. And then having done so come and cry foul. The mechanic exists to keep you from breaking the law. Much the same way a speed limiter does on a car.

Believe me when I say that this was strictly your own fault. Learn from the mistake. It is all you can do.

And remember no matter how hard you believe a thing doesn't make it so. You can not shoot the guy who cuts you off in traffic no matter if you think he deserves it.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-07-10 08:43:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Bi-Mi Lansatha
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
So....

...Has anyone done a mission and have that person come along and start taking your savage? yea that happened to me and i shot the person because...

... the person had a killright against me and opened it to everyone and caused me to lose a Navy Apoc and fits which was about 850million...
That was a bad choice on your part.


"It Burrns When I PvP"

850M lost to protect some crappy salvage? That would burn.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#66 - 2013-07-10 08:45:51 UTC
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:


Because of this rule the person had a killright against me and opened it to everyone and caused me to lose a Navy Apoc



Let me get this right. You seem to be saying that the act of him salvaging your wrecks caused him to get kill rights against you....

Or did that happen when you blew up his ship?

See the difference?

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#67 - 2013-07-10 08:50:01 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
So....

...Has anyone done a mission and have that person come along and start taking your savage? yea that happened to me and i shot the person because...

... the person had a killright against me and opened it to everyone and caused me to lose a Navy Apoc and fits which was about 850million...
That was a bad choice on your part.


"It Burrns When I PvP"

850M lost to protect some crappy salvage? That would burn.


I believe he also lost the Machariel (or whatever) that he shot the innocent salvager with.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#68 - 2013-07-10 08:53:37 UTC
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
So.... *rabblerabblerabbleRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEErabblerabblerabble



Lol

Lol

Lol

You lose.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#69 - 2013-07-10 09:01:53 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:

And remember no matter how hard you believe a thing doesn't make it so. You can not shoot the guy who cuts you off in traffic no matter if you think he deserves it.

Actually you can, you just have to live with being Bubba's lady friend for the length of your prison sentence.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Hadewijch
Red Herring Industries
#70 - 2013-07-10 09:58:40 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:

I believe he also lost the Machariel (or whatever) that he shot the innocent salvager with.


Not a Machariel. After raging in local for half an hour, using words that a lady as me is ashamed to even think of, he opened fire with T1 fit Coercer. He got me to 98% shields before brave Concord arrived to my rescue. That's where the kill right came from.

He had two corpmates with him. They decided to yellow-box me to death while their boss was melting away.




RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#71 - 2013-07-10 10:04:31 UTC
Hadewijch wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:

I believe he also lost the Machariel (or whatever) that he shot the innocent salvager with.


Not a Machariel. After raging in local for half an hour, using words that a lady as me is ashamed to even think of, he opened fire with T1 fit Coercer. He got me to 98% shields before brave Concord arrived to my rescue. That's where the kill right came from.

He had two corpmates with him. They decided to yellow-box me to death while their boss was melting away.



The dreaded yellow box of doom.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#72 - 2013-07-10 10:18:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Hadewijch wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:

I believe he also lost the Machariel (or whatever) that he shot the innocent salvager with.


Not a Machariel. After raging in local for half an hour, using words that a lady as me is ashamed to even think of, he opened fire with T1 fit Coercer. He got me to 98% shields before brave Concord arrived to my rescue. That's where the kill right came from.

He had two corpmates with him. They decided to yellow-box me to death while their boss was melting away.
You're the one responsible for the impressive display of anger, ignorance and tears from the OP?
Kudos, you have my respect for providing such excellent content Big smile

RubyPorto wrote:

The dreaded yellow box of doom.


Colloquially known as the carebear stare

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#73 - 2013-07-10 10:41:13 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Colloquially known as the carebear stare



Got you to 10k for that.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#74 - 2013-07-10 10:44:41 UTC
Ty Ruby, much appreciated Big smile

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#75 - 2013-07-10 11:12:14 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
oh hi there future war target.



I read that with Herbert the Pervert voice in my head

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#76 - 2013-07-10 11:38:28 UTC
OP, one day I was doing missions and some guy came into my mission and started salvaging, when I do missions I tend to salvage after, anyway I went in and as I was tractoring wrecks he salvaged them. I was a bit annoyed, so I left him too it and did another mission, but I blow up each wreck, so after a while he comes in and sees no wrecks and me blowing up a ship and then the wreck and he decides to go elsewhere. No loss to Concord and no thread that makes you a target. Don't get mad, ruin it for them...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#77 - 2013-07-10 12:09:46 UTC
Hahahaha....

Oh my, thanks for the entertainment.

OP, you really need to learn the rules of the game.... stop flying PLEXed ships to Mission in..... and really really stop posting your tears in C&P (Nobody here is going to support you).

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Blue Absinthe
Wardec U
#78 - 2013-07-10 12:39:12 UTC
You're in a PvP corp and you're complaining about salvage....... about salvage!?
Nolan David
Bastage Network
The Ivana Trading Federation Federation
#79 - 2013-07-10 12:51:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolan David
Say all you want about the spelling and grammar... the people who have replied with, "that's not how it is though" are being as ridiculous.

He knows that's not how it is. He is suggesting it should be changed to be that way. I know his posts are hard to follow but I thought that was quite easy to pick up on, lol.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#80 - 2013-07-10 13:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
xxdeathxx thebeaver wrote:
The target the wreck and hit it with their savager


Wow. Quite a read but this bit caught my eye. I have to get me one of them! How much DPS does a savager do? Sounds awesome.

As for the rest of the rant, working as intended. Salvaging, even ninja salvaging, is deliberately allowed as a noob profession.

Edit: oh my word, it has an L in it! Now go learn some PvP in lowsec before Mr Kane catches you in something expensive.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.