Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would change the original skill, not add a new one:
Increases the amount of jump clones you can possess with implants by 1 per level.
Reduces the jump clone timer by 1 hour per level.

You should be able to have as many empty jump clones as you want, but can only put implants in those you have the skill for.

well it is OP the reason that there is a cooldown is because otherwise it would be too strong and 6 hours is just too fast



is that so? i got a good booster char that has 2 jumpclones 1 with armor implant and one with shield implant

sometimes i do stuff in shield and sometimes in armor you feel where this is going?

You have 1 clone installed on station and 1 you're currently in. Swapping those does not incur implant loss or any other kind of loss except 24hour countdown. Swapping clones is not power projection.

The way i suggested has several pros against current system:
- It does not cripple "daily routines".
- it does not make power projection via jump clones easier (only just a bit)
- it promotes pvp for newer players: you get home after work @18pm, jump into PvP clone on same station, roam a bit, then @21pm you can get back into your PvE clone with +5 implants and do other stuff.
- it helps booster character that has several clones with different mindlinks installed.

i'l try.. eventually. If it does what you say - it is a bug and should be fixed. simple as that.

try it ingame.

This, 22 hours would be all I need.

And what is stupid about it?

What makes it so OP or more OP than change station and pod self destruction? -nothing, except add a pod cost and is still as stupidly OP as you say than simply change clone station and pod self destruction.

One has a sense with a related skill improving player choices to jump from an implanted clone for another one for a specific task, the other is the same requiring no skill training whatsoever but makes no sense and only prevents player with implanted clones to actually log and join pvp activities.

you are right and i was wrong. i tested it today and the use case you are describing is exactly the case i incorrectly remembered as jumping to a clone in the same station.

two things:
1. i cannot possibly imagine that automatically halting the queue for the jump is more than a few man-hours worth of work. no matter how you see it, this is a low hanging fruit as far as quality of life improvements go.
2. reducing the jump cooldown to 20 instead of 24 hours would be an even better solution for the changing schedule crowd, because it would not allow bouncing around for a few hours right around downtime.

1st living in null I can safely tell you self destruction pod traveling is used thousands and thousands of times a day for several players

2nd even a cheapo +3 implanted clone doesn't prevent players from jumping using this tactic

3rd cloning facilities and stations with those are absolutely not a problem in null sec and no you don't clone jump in to your enemy station because it has cloning facilities, back to point 1 and everyone who plays in null sec knows this, does this and it's simple as cake



Well you still fail to explain why it makes easier or bring a proper argument.

Open clone facilities, check the closest friendly/neutral station with clone facilities -and you'll even be told by your alliance which one to have a clone over there- set new clone home pay a couple isk, undock self destruct or ask someone to kill your pod.

1min travel

-For the same distance passing through jump bridges can take you 30min with a cloak ship or 1h+ depending on traffic
-For the same distance bridge with a Titan/Blops requires a lot of organization, fuel and in the end the trip will be even slower if you factor all time spent preparing etc.

In both cases takes me time, a lot of time I can counter by pod destruction and travel at each of those 4 areas in about 1 min per trip

So no, the simple fact you can jump clone every 6h just for the sake of a random number doesn't makes it any more powerful than already is but instead brings more pvp.

I give you a reason why jump cloning timer lowerr is not any more powerful than you can already do by now and convinced this improves pvp.
This kind of thread pops several times a year and yet, not a single person and there were hundreds if not thousands against this always failed to bring a single argument that isn't based on false assumptions and many wet dreams.
Yet their arguments are far from having a positive effect in pvp or ever had any success proving this would be OP except express their paranoia.

Solid compromise.