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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#821 - 2013-07-08 23:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
I'm sorry to disapoint you but having a "sandbox" kind of game doesnt mean it needs to be filled with capitalistic entities only.

Just to give you an example, a newcomer in this game is automatically formated to be a part of a Corporation, ruled by a CEO, pay taxes and be a sheep. Why should I be forced to be a part of something like this? I dont even like corporations! What if i want to be a tribe member, an anarchic group punk, a gangster or a pirate? (remove the square, we want triangles, circles and spirals too lol)

The empty sandbox you play in is a mirror to the creativity, productivity and mentality of the people working on it. There is much that can be added to it inside its theme, things that have been asked thousands of times by the playerbase before (more ships,modules, playable alien races and pirate factions,alien technology,modular poses,walking in stations, populated planets etc).

Six Six Six wrote:
They could also on occasions hold limited events (if they have time and resources).


lol Yet again your claiming that the reason CCP doesnt deliver content is because they're out of resources, and not because they don't want to or are incapable of.

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe they should hire more content designers/artists/sci-fi writers instead of weasels like this? What exactly will this guy bring to the game? More spam messages asking you to buy **** that you already have for free now or dont really want/need?

The way to stabilize your game if its having trouble is to deliver an exceptional one, not try to convince people with cheap marketing tricks that they should play it.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#822 - 2013-07-09 02:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
raven666wings wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:
Think you're a bit unfair there.

Should they add content ? Certainly not of the style of games like WoW.
Why? Because it's a sandbox.



If the only kind of content you cant think of is fantasy themed, then your creative vision/ ability to create some is as good as CCP's. EVE is a sci-fi universe game, therefore, it's content is sci-fi themed.



Has nothing to do with fantasy, what I'm talking about is not making it into a theme park.





raven666wings wrote:
Six Six Six wrote:


However they should add tools that can be used to make player content


Hum, interesting. I'm kinda curious now, could you please tell me... do these "tools" and "player content" of yours include anything besides war waging corporations and their tools to exploit asteroids, moons, planets in a capitalist fashion race for profit? Maybe a little programming gimmick or sume number crunching with a new photoshop colorful picture on top that you call an "expansion"?




A BPO is an example of a tool it gives you the base to be able to create items/ships that can be used in the sandbox.

Player content: all large corp/alliance create their own content, usually some one in the group organises it. Even solo players can make their own content using the props/tool available in-game. The thing about a sandbox is, you're not supposed to get content spoon fed to you like what games like GW2 and WoW do.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#823 - 2013-07-09 02:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Six Six Six wrote:


Has nothing to do with fantasy, what I'm talking about is not making it into a theme park.

A BPO is an example of a tool it gives you the base to be able to create items/ships that can be used in the sandbox.

Player content: all large corp/alliance create their own content, usually some one in the group organises it. Even solo players can make their own content using the props/tool available in-game. The thing about a sandbox is, you're not supposed to get content spoon fed to you like what games like GW2 and WoW do.


lol dude im the one who plays Guild Wars but it seems to me ur the one whos living in a fantasy world.

You call elaborating a sci-fi universe turning it into a "theme park"? Well excuse me, but i'd rather play in an elaborate and complex game than on a empty and squared "sandbox".

BPO is an example of a tool... hum.. yes it is.. but if u want to make it a good tool you wanna have the possibility to print them with whatever kind of ship/module/weapon/etc/whatever invention you develop. Having a limited set of things to print on these BPO's is rather dull and not aknowledging that you need to open the mechanic up or at least add new inventions is really harmful and turns your loved "sandbox" into a boring game.

Let me make you a drawing, it seems you're having a hard time understanding - you cannot refuse to create content to the game and say its player created, when the players cannot actually create it.

Now lets get back to thread topic and discuss this matter - CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President - muahahah for real dawg? is he bringing a shovel and a bucket to build sandcastles? ****....
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#824 - 2013-07-09 02:43:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
raven666wings wrote:
I'm sorry to disapoint you but having a "sandbox" kind of game doesnt mean it needs to be filled with capitalistic entities only.

Just to give you an example, a newcomer in this game is automatically formated to be a part of a Corporation, ruled by a CEO, pay taxes and be a sheep. Why should I be forced to be a part of something like this? I dont even like corporations! What if i want to be a tribe member, an anarchic group punk, a gangster or a pirate? (remove the square, we want triangles, circles and spirals too lol)

The empty sandbox you play in is a mirror to the creativity, productivity and mentality of the people working on it. There is much that can be added to it inside its theme, things that have been asked thousands of times by the playerbase before (more ships,modules, playable alien races and pirate factions,alien technology,modular poses,walking in stations, populated planets etc).


That's because everyone has to be in a corp in this game. The CEO of a starter corp can hardly be said to be ruling as the CEO is an NPC. You could of course make your own corp then you would be the CEO and you could set your own taxes to 0% if you like. You can be a pirate, join a pirate corp.

If you really don't want to be in a corp then you should try another game.

They are adding more ships slowly and modules. Not sure there are any alien races in the lore of EVE. Anyway more playable races are not necessary as we have 4 already that can train everything plus not sure the character creator would cope if not based on the human model. More races throws the game more out of balance and would create a lot of work. Populated planets is likely to come into Dust's realm. WiS is a nice to have but hardly essential in EVE, again it's time and resources which means something else won't be getting worked on.




raven666wings wrote:

Six Six Six wrote:
They could also on occasions hold limited events (if they have time and resources).


lol Yet again your claiming that the reason CCP doesnt deliver content is because they're out of resources, and not because they don't want to or are incapable of.

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe they should hire more content designers/artists/sci-fi writers instead of weasels like this? What exactly will this guy bring to the game? More spam messages asking you to buy **** that you already have for free now or dont really want/need?

The way to stabilize your game if its having trouble is to deliver an exceptional one, not try to convince people with cheap marketing tricks that they should play it.



I'm not claiming they're out of resources that's why I said 'if they have'. I don't know how much spare time and resources they have and neither do you.

I have no idea what this guy will bring to the game, but I expect it'll be more than you.

I don't even think I've played an MMO that could claim to be exceptional.

So which was the last MMO that you helped out of trouble?
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#825 - 2013-07-09 02:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Ok dude u can stick your head back in the sandbox, dont overheat it too much u dont want it to burn. Have fun building castles with ur bud. lol
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#826 - 2013-07-09 02:52:03 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
I'm sorry to disapoint you but having a "sandbox" kind of game doesnt mean it needs to be filled with capitalistic entities only.

Just to give you an example, a newcomer in this game is automatically formated to be a part of a Corporation, ruled by a CEO, pay taxes and be a sheep. Why should I be forced to be a part of something like this? I dont even like corporations! What if i want to be a tribe member, an anarchic group punk, a gangster or a pirate? (remove the square, we want triangles, circles and spirals too lol)

The empty sandbox you play in is a mirror to the creativity, productivity and mentality of the people working on it. There is much that can be added to it inside its theme, things that have been asked thousands of times by the playerbase before (more ships,modules, playable alien races and pirate factions,alien technology,modular poses,walking in stations, populated planets etc).



the reason you cant just be "not in a corporation" has to do with the theme of eve. even though its only really stated blatantly inc aldari culture, the basic EVE lore basically has that you are either owned by a corporation, or you are nothing. without a "corporate sponsor" of sorts, you wouldnt be able to dock/market or anything, because lore-wise, there is NO BIGGER RISK than a "lone agent", because if you hold ties to no entity, then no one can be held responsible for your actions, so retribution cannot be taken should you say, choose to nuke a small city. that and, a capsuleer starts out in a corporation because it is implied that is the corporation that paid for your ascension to capsuleer status.

so yeah, you have to be in a corporation, because that is what EVE is completely centered around, lawless, anarchic, corporate capitalism. thats why a SINGLE CORPORATION can own planets/stations/etc, its to express the sheer power capitalism has received.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#827 - 2013-07-09 02:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
raven666wings wrote:
[quote=Six Six Six]
lol dude im the one who plays Guild Wars




You're right as I don't play it anymore.

Played it for 2 months, got 8 characters 6 max level with gear and a mage 36 and necromancer about 8 never really liked cloth wearers.

Leveling the first 2 was ok, the next 4 were boring because it was the same old stuff and the end game was a dull as dishwater. Gave up with the other two cloth wearers as I couldn't bring myself to level a 7th and 8th character especially as they were cloth wearers (magic users)

You say EVE is boring, well GW2 is really boring so much so I've given up playing it even though there's no subscription.


You can stick to your fantasy theme parks if you like, but don't try to turn EVE into a sci-fi theme park.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#828 - 2013-07-09 03:02:57 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Having an universe where every individual is of the same race and part of a corporation really shows lack of imagination, and inability to develop and expand beyond those lore constraints is a joke.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#829 - 2013-07-09 03:08:31 UTC
You really like this theme park word don't you? ahahah
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#830 - 2013-07-09 03:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Six Six Six wrote:
You're right as I don't play it anymore.

Played it for 2 months, got 8 characters 6 max level with gear and a mage 36 and necromancer about 8 never really liked cloth wearers.

Leveling the first 2 was ok, the next 4 were boring because it was the same old stuff and the end game was a dull as dishwater. Gave up with the other two cloth wearers as I couldn't bring myself to level a 7th and 8th character especially as they were cloth wearers (magic users)

You say EVE is boring, well GW2 is really boring so much so I've given up playing it even though there's no subscription.


You can stick to your fantasy theme parks if you like, but don't try to turn EVE into a sci-fi theme park.


lol... did u even try like.. PVP bro? go get urself hammered by some noobs in low rank matches and tell me how it goes... (inb4 oh ****.. they told me to go back to pve) lol

meanwhile you can go to Guild Wars 1 Hall of Monuments, introduce my account name "Brutal Death Reaper" and check on my pvp achievements, and go to guild wars 1 wiki and check how many matches won in the Hall of Heroes you need to get Eternal Hero achievement.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#831 - 2013-07-09 05:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
(i'm not even gonna tell you how the pve can be fun in that game, with the players constantly finding new ways to speed clear dungeons and instances and challenging the devs into making them harder with new mobs, mechanics, etc... this is way too much sand for your truck... lol)
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#832 - 2013-07-09 05:48:39 UTC
raven666wings wrote:

Just to give you an example, a newcomer in this game is automatically formated to be a part of a Corporation, ruled by a CEO, pay taxes and be a sheep. Why should I be forced to be a part of something like this? I dont even like corporations! What if i want to be a tribe member, an anarchic group punk, a gangster or a pirate? (remove the square, we want triangles, circles and spirals too lol)


[lore]

You're placed in a newbie corporation because the corporation are the ones that pay for your immortality, if the corporation didn't pay for your initial clone and provide the technology for the instantaneous transfer of conciousness upon death your life in New Eden would be extremely short, because you would be a mere mortal

[/lore]

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#833 - 2013-07-09 09:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Joan Greywind
Where are the " you guys are only saying bad things about him because he is a man post from CCP? I thought that was the go to response nowadays, or is CCP also sexist (tum tum tum)???
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#834 - 2013-07-09 09:18:37 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
(i'm not even gonna tell you how the pve can be fun in that game, with the players constantly finding new ways to speed clear dungeons and instances and challenging the devs into making them harder with new mobs, mechanics, etc... this is way too much sand for your truck... lol)




Sounds like you found the game for you, so what are you still doing here.


I did play PvP there although not that much as kind of got bored with the fact characters would appear out of thin air.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#835 - 2013-07-09 15:19:44 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

[lore]

You're placed in a newbie corporation because the corporation are the ones that pay for your immortality, if the corporation didn't pay for your initial clone and provide the technology for the instantaneous transfer of conciousness upon death your life in New Eden would be extremely short, because you would be a mere mortal

[/lore]



limiting lore constraint which can be worked on and opened up. having clone management and mind transfer ran by corporations only shows your lack of imagination
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#836 - 2013-07-09 15:21:37 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Six Six Six wrote:

Sounds like you found the game for you, so what are you still doing here.


I did play PvP there although not that much as kind of got bored with the fact characters would appear out of thin air.


complaining about "theme parks" when ur the one living in a barbie world. please dont make me tell you the real reasons why i play this game, it might make you wanna cry lol
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#837 - 2013-07-09 15:30:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
I'm a huge daoc fan and EA hosed that and war hammer when they took mythic...then the whole sim city fiasco....

Yeah, not a fan of EA. Best luck to this guy but don't hose EVE please ><

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Josef Djugashvilis
#838 - 2013-07-09 17:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
raven666wings wrote:
(i'm not even gonna tell you how the pve can be fun in that game, with the players constantly finding new ways to speed clear dungeons and instances and challenging the devs into making them harder with new mobs, mechanics, etc... this is way too much sand for your truck... lol)


This forum is for Eve Online.

Please respect that and not witter on about other games.

This is not a signature.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#839 - 2013-07-09 17:32:33 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


This forum is for Eve Online.

Please respect that and not witter on about other games.


lol bro u need to scroll up and see who started talking about guild wars 2 and wow
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#840 - 2013-07-09 17:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Six Six Six wrote:

The main people lacking the creative vision are the people playing, those that are used to games like WoW, GW2 that maps out what you have to do and uses achievements to add so called content on the cheap.


spaceship barbie is mad cause ppl are calling her game devs lazy and square minded