Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Spaceship Make-Active Enablertizor And Primary Bonus Magnificationing!

We dont pilot our sapceships, we CAMMAND them, aside from that most of my complaints can be written off as me being used to the old names and not liking change, kinda like back when ammo/meta names were all made unimaginative, er i mean, "streamlined"

One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post: Every skill group, except Planet Management and Subsystems, has a skill of the same name in it which is generally the most important skill in the group and has a 1x training multiplier. If you want to introduce new skill groups, I would like them to keep with this "tradition" (which can be done without introduction of new skills, I am assured).

How about looking at this a little differently, by obtaining licences to gain access rights to larger bigger or faster ships, like getting a motorcycle licence or a licence to drive a semi.

Frigate Licence
Provisional Cruiser licence
Caldari Freighter licence

So in effect, your 'logbook' would aquire licences to fly/pilot ships as your learning and abilities progressed.

Spaceship Command could be read as 'Ship Licences' and each section, Frigate - Dreadnaught would show non trained, partially trained, fully trained and with the holding of, say, cruiser licences for each faction, a new licence simply 'All Cruisers'.

'Space Ship Command' sounds like an authoritian resource, some thing you rmight report to to buy extended rights to stay in High Sec while you have a rating of -10.

'Space Ship Licences' tells you what it is, a portfolio of licencing achievements.

Multiple Targeting sucks. Target Management is much better. Target Acquisition to me sounds more like a targeting speed skill.

Spaceship Piloting is indeed 'naff'. Spaceship Command is much better. Really, there's no reason to change this.

Also +1 on standardizing the skill names for ORE ships. ORE industrial just for covering the Noctis is a bit dumb, unless you're planning on adding or moving more ORE ships to that group.

Not sure about the PI skills. PI is fairly unique in EVE industry, so it seems odd to spread it's skills out among the other industrial skills. I would vote to keep the Planet Management group.

I also like the idea of making the skill tree more of a tree. Right now it's fairly flat.

-All ship skills. Sub folders for race specific skills please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The total Spaceship Command list is 67 items long! break it down a bit, spare a thought for my mouse wheel!
-T2 ship skills (Assault ships, Interdictors, Heavy Interdictors, Recon, etc) would make sense to be in a different or sub-folder called something like Spaceship Command Specialization. Ties in well with the naming of the different weapon Specialization skills.
-Weapon support skills (Missile Projection, Rapid Firing, Controlled Bursts, Motion Prediction, etc) being in a sub-folder would really help separate them from the core requirement skills from the support skills. You could call the sub folder Missile Proficiency or Turret Proficiency
-Likewise with fitting skills. Separating out the "efficiency" skills from the "required for" skills would help clarify what's important to train first. ie; in Navigation there is Afterburner and High Speed Maneuvering and Jump Drive Operation in a sub-folder I'd put Acceleration Control and Fuel Conservation and maybe Jump Fuel Conservation. Call the folder Navigation Efficiencyor something.

I like the idea of sub folders because it would help with navigating the often long list of skills to find the one you're looking for. I'm glad this is being looked at, but just moving them around between single-level folders doesn't really help. We're still looking at big blobs of skills, slightly less vaguely grouped together without any real indication of how they interact. Using sub folders would go a long way to showing how skills relate to each other, not to mention cutting down on scrolling through large skill lists to find that one skill (and that's if you can even remember what it's called!!)

Reorganizing the skills in specific skill related groups has long been needed. +1

Re/naming of the groups and making even more categories of them. -1.

Prefer the current category names as they make sense. Can add a hover over the categories to inform a player, for example, that Electronics skills offer A/B/C benefits (or add an additional box below the title explaining what skills in that category does).

The current category names have a ship system feel to them, where renaming them to specific skills and what they do, cheapens how a ship is looked as. In industry to the military, the names for equipment are related to the plant or ship itself. Sub systems (a sub-category) are named after specific systems or functions.

In the military command is the term for ship/station leadership (and only like in the Air Force/Army they're considered pilots, naval forces call them aviators. Generic command is recognized all over, not just branch related like "pilot").

imho, there's no reason for continue to use the name hull upgrades for a skill that improve the armor hp amount and "mechanics" for another one that improves the hull hp amount....

Actually they are doing this specifically to break that tradition.

Many times people assume that training industry means any skill under the industry category when they go to do their first manufacture tutorial.

That overlapping name bit is terrible.

My suggestions:

New category "Electronics Superiority" for electronic warfare.




Advanced Drone Interfacing -> Capital Drone Interfacing or Drone Control Unit Operation

Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing -> Ranged/Long Range Drone Control (or some other variant), sounds too much like Drone Interfacing but has nothing to do with damage.

Sentry Drone Interfacing -> Sentry Drone Operation - it's a 5% bonus so it falls under "operation" and not "interfacing"

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Electronics -> Leave it as it is

Frequency Modulation -> open ti ideas but this one could use a name change - Predictive Jamming?

Multitasking -> Advanced Targeting

Electronic Warfare -> Target(ing) Disruption - Why does the ECM skill have so many other skills tied to it? It might be wise to separate it from electronic warfare, and give that skill another bonus.

Signal Dispersion -> Advanced Target Disruption

Signal Suppression -> Advanced Sensor Suppression ?

Signature Focusing -> Advanced Signature Amplification ?

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xxx Shield Compensation - xxx Shield Hardening, or Anti-xxxx Ward Hardening

Energy Management -> Capacitor Management

Energy Pulse Weapons -> Smartbomb Operation - move to a "weapons" section

Energy Systems Operation -> Capacitor Systems Operation

Shield Compensation -> Efficient Shield Boosting ?

Tactical Shield Manipulation - there are all kinds of things wrong with the skill, it needs a complete rework

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Controlled Bursts -> Efficient/Frugal Firing ?

Trajectory Analysis -> Predictive Firing ?

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Siege Warfare -> Shield(ed) Warfare

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xxx Armor Compensation -> xxx Armor Hardening

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Guided Missile Precision -> Missile Precision

Missile Bombardment -> Missile Projection

Missile Projection -> Missile Navigation ?

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Nanite Control -> "Booster" (Drug) Operation

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Spaceship Command - great name, leave it alone

Also, some skills have vague names that don't reflect what they do.
For example:

Metallurgy > rename to something like > Production efficiency research
Research> 5% bonus to manufacturing time, this should be renamed to > production efficiency!
Production efficiency> Material Efficiency
Mechanics > Structure Integrity
Hull Upgrades> Armor Integrity

It doesn't have to be precisely what I wrote, and there are a ton other skills that I didn't mention here, but you get the idea.