EVE General Discussion

Doesn't matter what I do - because there is nothing from null or low sec I need to play EVE.

I like extortion because the "X" makes it sound cool.

So all you do is shiptoast on the forums?

And those mats just magically pop up out of nowhere, huh?

Oh, it's okay if they're now in null? Nope, because those nullbears are those who are mining in high-sec.

TEST and Goons aren't funding their personal PvP habits. When you visit the belts you seen the null-sec cans, with their big corp letters on them, too.

What it is folks is the nullbears want high-sec to themselves. This is why James and company exists, shoo the high-sec guys out so they can have cheaper ores to sell at Jita. Through those profits they can buy the stuff too difficult to produce in null (they have to be funded for their activity anyhow, and someone with the resources. James isn't a lone crusader. PvPers are lazy mouthbreathers anyway).

If anyone checked the map of late, you can see the high kill activity in high-sec at the moment too, while the TEST and Goons move up to mine and dine on high-sec mats (because they can't get the volume otherwise, and corps that don't want to participate in the usual wars have to do something but sit in docks). Then corps pop up all of the sudden for salvage mats........

Part of the war is to deplete assets, to drive up the prices again due to the mats being more scarce (why I don't depend on null for anything). Once one of those two alliances secure moon goo (like it has been for years), they'll sit back and profit on it. Goons is but a PvE alliance through it all anyway. TEST is but a bunch of pewpewpew kids that are just pummelled by the likes of BL and others in low and null. Rest are inbred with either of those alliances, relying on blue doughnuts and "agreements"...much like how these merc corps are ran in the game.

The game is messed up in how everything depends on a lone mechanic. If it's true that Goons wants to destroy EvE (did someone pod Mitt when he was young?), yeah, they have it in the bag simply by messing with the supply chains, starting with ores on one end and moon goo on another. With all those corps on for the ride, going to have a nasty rude awakening...just like those blue renters found out.

Putting your head in the sand won't change the outcome.

Not really.

Don't need any of that to play EvE. Because even PvPing as it's normally done in the game, doesn't depend on T2 or T3.

You've been in the Goons too long to realize there's more to EvE than what they can or can't provide.

So have your Wal-Mart bloc raids, the rest of the game moves on (but thanks for raising the prices, you're my blue renters, after all).

No, I'm saying that if nullsec needs minerals, they can get it and lone highsec miners are not necessary for that.
I'm also saying that just because nullsec alliances can do it all in-house doesn't mean that null industry isn't broken.

No, what makes it a false dichotomy is that those are not the only two options. Nullsec industry can be incredibly broken without nullsec alliances having to rely on highsec miners, because there's the third option that the alliances do their industry outside of null, where it isn't broken.

False dichotomy. Neither is true due to the availability of option #3.

…but the question was whether or not you use it. So do you?

Incorrect. What you do matters a lot. So what do you do in the game? You are asking people for information but refuse to give them the basic foundation they need to give it to you. As long as you describe what you do, the only rational answer is that null affects you because that's how the game is designed: it's all interconnected. If you think you've managed to find a way out of that interconnectedness, prove it.

Yes it does. If you claim that null does not affect your gameplay, your gameplay matters.

That depends on what you do. So what is it you do in the game?

I do if you want me to answer your question.

That depends on what you do. So what is it you do in the game?

The question is how you're affected or impacted by null. If you're ratting, you're competing against other ratters for the availability of those bounties. Those other players will use nullsec-sourced equipment that is much better than what you can field, thus shrinking your income. Moreover, the equipment you use will inevitably contain materials that come from null — no null, and you wouldn't be able to get those bounties to begin with.

Your gameplay is affected because every part of the game affects every other part of the game.