EVE General Discussion

All the people going on and on about performance, it's probably not a hardware issue on the cluster, but a complete re-coding of the movement portion of the client and positional synchronization code on the server. You all have to realize that not every single node in the cluster runs all solar systems all the time too. I don't see a problem with the hardware honestly after following a lot of the blogs on what TQ actually runs on, especially since there are a number of games where you can get 1000+ players running around killing each other in the same place and TQ has the same level of hardware if not better than a lot of other MMOs on the market.

It's something which is not really going to be budgeted for, like ever. There's a lot better things to be spending money on at the moment, and I think something like that is at the bottom of the priority list, if it was ever considered to begin with.

That doesn't quite add up. There isn't one dedicated CPU per solar system. CPUs run many solar systems. They have a total of 120 CPUs, but thousands of systems. So, more CPUs means fewer systems per CPU means fewer pilots per CPU.



That doesn't really follow either. For example, maybe if you have relatively infrequent updates to location info, but you have a frequent need to access that information you might want to index the field, where if you have very frequent updates, but infrequent access to the data, then you might not want to index it. If you are always looking up location information in combination with specific other fields after the change you might want to change your index to tie those fields together, etc. "Basic logic" isn't a very useful tool for guessing at database optimization. It's way complicated stuff.



That doesn't follow either. The client would need to check for input constantly but it would not necessarily need to send a "no new news" update to the server.

But I absolutely never claimed to be an expert. My overriding point is that none of us are experts in it. Only probably a relatively short list of developers at CCP would have any foundation to actually say what a change like that would require, so all the "thats impossible!" posts here, IMO, are ridiculous. Very few things in software development are impossible and that certainly isn't a conclusion one could reach confidently without knowing radically more than anybody on this thread does.

I personally don't like the "double-click to move" paradigm of the EVE UI. I'd prefer to have some other way of setting and visualising the ship's movement vector. It would be especially nice to be able to see when your planned movement has changed due to accidentally indicating to the UI that you want to "approach" that thing that you were just trying to target.

-10 elementary physics phail

Except they do it in Black Prophesy, so the IDEA isnt that stupid, it just is with CCP's framework.

I don't know why anyone would think this is a good idea. "Stick & rudder" type controls might be fine for controlling an aircraft but would be completely useless for a spacecraft. The way that a change of direction is achieved is completely different and does not equate at all. The only RL spaceship to use a stick for in-space navigation was the lunar module and it took the pilots months of training to "un-learn" all of their "stick & rudder" reactions to be able to fly it. And those were NASA test pilots so good luck mate.

RL spacecraft use a keyboard for navigation inputs. Sci-fi shows that have been properly thought out use a keyboard for navigation inputs. If you think about it, space combat would involve tracking and engaging targets moving at massive velocities and huge ranges and would therefore be entirely dependent on computer support. No place for pathetically slow "fast twitch" human reactions.

There are plenty of space combat games available that treat spaceships like aircraft and use stick controls so why not go play one of those? EVE takes a more "realistic" approach to so many aspects of space travel and combat, it would be a shame to dumb it down in this way.

Eve isn't about piloting ships like fighters, it's about commanding heavy ships. Joystick control would be pointless I do not play a shooter.

Buy a joystick and a G14 keyboard, you should find that frigate flying suddenly becomes alot more fun

I venture to guess that the reason why EVE does not use stick and rudder space flying is because the majority of the EVE population does not want to use the stick and rudder system (including me).

Which is completely fine. I was just wonding the thinking behind it.