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coming back after a three year break - I'm not impressed.
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Doomheim
#21 - 2013-07-08 20:02:59 UTC
Igor Epocci wrote:
Kult Altol wrote:
I mine sometimes, but after 3 years you wanted to MINE? Okay.......


To each their own. It was my financial base for exploration and such. As I said, I'm going to have to re evaluate everything before getting back into the game.

Just after the Orca was released, my three-pilot team was pulling in about 75m isk in a few hours in hisec. Just before I left, it was down to 20m for 6-8 hours of mining - certainly not worth it, IMO, which was only a small part of why I left.

In that case, as wierd and unbelievable as it sounds, you suck at mining.
Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-07-08 20:08:41 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Mining_Barges
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Mining_Barges:Exhumers
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Mining_Barges:Exhumers:ORE
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk

I don't see the problem here.

No idea about the search thing, I just used it recently to fine effect.

Give me a ballpark month and year you left and I'll try to give you a list of somethings worth looking into from the last 3 years :D


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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#23 - 2013-07-08 20:37:19 UTC
mechtech wrote:
You guys will complain about anything, it's hilarious.

The wiki is out of date, I quit!
Exploration is accessible to new players, greatly boosting player retention, I quit!
Ships are balanced, I quit!
They updated the API key system, I quit!!!

My damn snowballs are melted, I quit!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#24 - 2013-07-08 20:52:33 UTC
You need to go deeper, click the ORE button.

After selecting a ship class you then need to select a faction. In this case the only faction is ORE.

Try this with any other category.

-Evelopedia Home
-Ships
-Battecrusiers (Mining barges)
-Command ships (Exhumers)
-Amarr (ORE)
THEN you get the abso and damnation

The Drake is a Lie
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-07-08 20:57:30 UTC
Yeah, Evelopedia is way out-of-date and is in dire need of updating.

Exhumers are not that bad, kind of makes sense in some ways. Hulks are more for gang mining these days.

Special offers come and go, just got to get the timing right.

Old avatar system is not compatible with the new system, nothing strange there.

After coming back after 3 years it's worth catching up on the changes even if it takes a couple of days.

You must be at least tempted even if it's just on memory otherwise you wouldn't be here.



Anyway welcome back!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#26 - 2013-07-08 21:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Some Exhumers are now more survivable, some are better at working solo (larger cargo hold), and some... like your HULK... have the best yield. This sounds like what you are after, the highest yield available... and the HULK has a clear advantage over the others in this regard.

It's emphasis really has been shifted to be more of a Null sec mining vessel, where you can control the area vs hostiles and will likely have industrial support for hauling your ore (obviously with link support). That's not to say it isn't just as yield focused in High Sec, it's just not as survivable because you can't control the area.

The other vessels are designed to be more survivable in High sec, where you have to deal with unexpected suicide gank attempts... or are frequently mining solo and need a larger hold.

For the search function I think that simply typing in HULK returns too many responses for the system. Try "Hulk competitive" and you should find the information you are seeking.

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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#27 - 2013-07-09 02:13:50 UTC
Isn't good to know that after three years you can count on the EVE forums to be as helpful as ever?

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Khira Kitamatsu
#28 - 2013-07-09 02:21:30 UTC
If you came back to mine - you made a mistake. Mining in EVE is now more of a joke than ever.

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Riyal
invidious Squid
#29 - 2013-07-09 02:45:54 UTC
Igor Epocci wrote:
Kult Altol wrote:
I mine sometimes, but after 3 years you wanted to MINE? Okay.......


To each their own. It was my financial base for exploration and such. As I said, I'm going to have to re evaluate everything before getting back into the game.

Just after the Orca was released, my three-pilot team was pulling in about 75m isk in a few hours in hisec. Just before I left, it was down to 20m for 6-8 hours of mining - certainly not worth it, IMO, which was only a small part of why I left.


Exploration got revamped in the last expansion, you may like this more now. Mining has had a pretty terrible income for a long time, the new large ore hold afk barges don't help the situation.

In hindsight my post should have had more psssshhhh
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Zerious Fricken Biziness
#30 - 2013-07-09 03:29:04 UTC
Igor Epocci wrote:

I came in to find that the 'balance pass' on the exhumers left my mining flagship neutered. It's still the most expensive mining ship you can buy, which I expected, quite frankly. It takes a lot of resources to build it. But to find that both of the other exhumers can mine on par with it, have larger ore holds, better hitpoints, fly faster, and are considerably cheaper to outfit


1. Sell Hulk
2. Buy cheaper "better" ship
3. ...
4. Profit!
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