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How might I have fun while mining?
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Dax Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-08 03:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Dax Virpio
I'm at the end of my fifth day into my free trial, and I have an experienced player guiding me through becoming a miner. Thing is, I've been solo mining this whole time and it is BORING. Is there any way to liven it up without being suicidal? I'm only ~385k skill points into my toon, so I still need to finish learning the core mining skills; I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony. Any ideas on stuff I can do to keep it interesting while still mining as a profession?

I'm also not a member of a player corp, due to my mentor's advice against it (something about "wardecking"). What do you guys think? If you recommend joining a player corp, what's a good, reputable newbie corp to join?

Many thanks in advance!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2013-07-08 03:30:21 UTC
Don't?

Mining is not at all interesting, and social interaction (or watching movies or something) is all there is to keep it tolerable.

If you don't enjoy the basic mechanic, why not choose a different profession?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-07-08 03:39:15 UTC
Dax Virpio wrote:
Thing is, I've been solo mining this whole time and it is BORING. I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony. Any ideas on stuff I can do to keep it interesting while still mining as a profession?
Hmm, how about you start a second account and suicide-gank other miners in the same belt?

Mostly kidding. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't do things in EVE just for the ISK. If you find mining boring now, then it's probably not for you. OK, you can spice it up with low-sec mining and ninja-WH gas harvesting, but given the added risk, I am not convinced that you'll make more ISK than with high-sec mining. If you are really set on keep mining, you might find those things less boring.

But there are tons of ways of making ISK in EVE, so I really suggest you find something you actually enjoy doing. And if you only look at the ISK/hour ratio, it's hard to beat mowing your neighbor's lawn.
Dax Virpio wrote:
I'm also not a member of a player corp, due to my mentor's advice against it (something about "wardecking"). What do you guys think? If you recommend joining a player corp, what's a good, reputable newbie corp to join?
EVE is more fun with other. But if your character is a dedicated miner, it can be better to stay in an NPC corp to avoid wardec. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if there are mining corps that you can "join" without actually leaving the NPC corp. After all, you don't need to be in the same EVE-corp to form a fleet and talk on teamspeak.
Xytheus Skor
Venture Corporation
#4 - 2013-07-08 03:46:44 UTC
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
#5 - 2013-07-08 03:48:31 UTC
There are a few ways to have fun while mining.

Even though I'm an avid miner, I must admit that there are entirely too many damn miners in high sec. If you find that others are constantly encroaching on your territory, or are obviously AFK or bots, contact your local gank squad and inform them of the situation and offer to use your mining ship to provide them with a warp-in point to take care of the problem.

This next one usually requires you to be in a fleet, but could be done solo as well with enough SP and a good enough ship. I do this one quite often. There are always ninja salvagers and looters in the asteroid belts in high sec. I fit 2 of my exhumers with warp scramblers/disruptors and a web and there is also an Orca in the belt. If, while I'm mining, someone enters the belt and steals some loots and turns yellow, then I scram/disrupt/web them and 15 T2 drones commence to tearing them apart (as long as they are in a ship that I'm certain the drones can handle).
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-08 07:35:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
RubyPorto wrote:
Mining is not at all interesting, and social interaction (or watching movies or something) is all there is to keep it tolerable.


Shooting poor gankers is social interaction.

I like to call it natural selection.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-07-08 08:11:33 UTC
Dax Virpio wrote:
Thing is, I've been solo mining this whole time and it is BORING. Is there any way to liven it up without being suicidal? I'm only ~385k skill points into my toon, so I still need to finish learning the core mining skills; I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony.


If you don't enjoy mining, don't mine. Don't force yourself to do something you hate, this is a game after all.

Plenty of other ways to make ISK. Missions, exploration, trading, FW are just a few that come to mind.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-08 08:38:00 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Dax Virpio wrote:
I'm at the end of my fifth day into my free trial, and I have an experienced player guiding me through becoming a miner. Thing is, I've been solo mining this whole time and it is BORING. Is there any way to liven it up without being suicidal? I'm only ~385k skill points into my toon, so I still need to finish learning the core mining skills; I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony. Any ideas on stuff I can do to keep it interesting while still mining as a profession?

I'm also not a member of a player corp, due to my mentor's advice against it (something about "wardecking"). What do you guys think? If you recommend joining a player corp, what's a good, reputable newbie corp to join?

Many thanks in advance!



Okay a couple of things I spot in here:


1.) If you don't like mining...then don't mine. EVE is a sandbox, nobody or nothing is forcing you to mine. Go out and find what you find fun to do, then do that.

Don't focus too much on ISK/hour stuff, ISK is a tool to provide you with the most important thing in EVE....Fun.

Your basic measurement if you are playing right should be: Fun/hour

I've said it in another thread. I would rather do something that I find fun and gets me 10mil/hour over something I don't find fun but gets me 200mil/hour. EVE is a game, most people play games to have fun....

2.) People saying you should NOT join a corp cause of wardecs forget to mention that not all corps receive wardecs etc.

Being in a player corp can help a lot as you have people to do stuff with together.
Another option is of course to stay in NPC corp but meet other people and do stuff together as a community. Just cause you are not in the same corp doesn't mean you can't do stuff together.

A good guide how to find a good corp for yourself is here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=245333&find=unread

3.) EVE University (good all round teaching corp), Brave Newbies Inc (all round but also good PvP around corp) and RvB (full PvP community) come to mind.

But there are many many more new player friendly corporations around that might suit you. Use the guide and a bit or research and you will likely find them.

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Woeful Animation
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2013-07-08 17:15:45 UTC
Mining. WoW. Mining.

Yep tried it. Took me about 40 minutes during the tutorial mission to fill my venture, and well lets just say that if I had a knife I might of slit my eve wrists then and there.

I think mining takes a certain personality. It takes a guy or gal who enjoys doing the same thing over and over again. There is a certain calm and peace from mining the land (uggg space) and harvesting the raw materials that make Eve go. If you are that sort, then you can enjoy mining. If you like seeing your ISK balance rise with little risk, then you can enjoy mining. If you put out your drones to kill the belt rats, and like to read, watch you tube, watch back episodes of Naked and Afraid, or Cartoon Network or if you like to do the dishes, wash the laundry, take out the trash and make money then mining is for you.

Me. I hate mining. The only way mining would be fun is if there was a group of hired comedians who inhabited the super special mining is not boring channel and they tell **** and fart jokes all day every day 23.5/7 and keep you laughing. Otherwise. There are tons of other ways to make ISK and have fun that don't involve a Venture, Retriever or Orca.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-08 17:16:47 UTC
play osu while mining, makes it very challenging.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#11 - 2013-07-08 17:21:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
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I'm also not a member of a player corp, due to my mentor's advice against it (something about "wardecking"). What do you guys think? If you recommend joining a player corp, what's a good, reputable newbie corp to join?


First off, get a new mentor - your current one is ****. Advising a new player against playing with other people is about the worst thing ever. I don't know of any particular corps to recommend, particularly because it is highly dependent on what you're doing.

Most people spending their time mining do other stuff like watching TV while they mine. Pressing a button to harvest rocks is simply not going to be that stimulating. It can be moreso if you're doing it as part of a coordinated group with haulers and boosts, but still going to be pretty simple. If you're looking to stay in the industrial side of the game while having something a bit more engaging, look into things like manufacturing or PI (planetary interaction ie planetary mining).

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I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony. Any ideas on stuff I can do to keep it interesting while still mining as a profession?


As mentioned above, mining is far from the only way of making ISK. In fact, it's not even a particularly great way of making ISK (especially in hisec). If the only reason you're doing it is because it earns you money, holy **** stop and find something else.
Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-07-08 18:12:58 UTC
I would find another way to make ISK. If you are less than a week in, and bored by mining, then it really isn't for you.

Regarding the "Don't Join a Corp because of war deccing." IMO, thats just silly. The very first thing I would recommend is to join a corp that will help you grow. Being wardecced is not a big deal as long as you pay attention. I would take a hot minute to research the prospective corp and make sure they know how to deal with a wardec.
Dax Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-08 19:27:25 UTC
Thanks for the advice, guys. As has been established, I'm a rank-ass newb, and don't know my way around the game very well. That said, I've taken the EVE personality test many times, and every time, Exploring either comes up as an option, or as the tests recommendation. I think I'd like to give it a try, but I don't know anything about skilling, ships, fits, etc. I'm going to look through EVElopedia to try and find some answers, but if any of you have any other sources to check, please send them my way.

Again, thank you all for the help!
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#14 - 2013-07-08 20:02:06 UTC
@op: Stop mining.

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#15 - 2013-07-08 20:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Pig
Killing the other miners is pretty fun, have you tried that?

Go with the Code.
www.minerbumping.com

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-07-08 21:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Godsnottlingson
Dax Virpio wrote:
I'm at the end of my fifth day into my free trial, and I have an experienced player guiding me through becoming a miner. Thing is, I've been solo mining this whole time and it is BORING. Is there any way to liven it up without being suicidal? I'm only ~385k skill points into my toon, so I still need to finish learning the core mining skills; I want to keep mining, because I like ISK, but I need something to break the monotony. Any ideas on stuff I can do to keep it interesting while still mining as a profession?

I'm also not a member of a player corp, due to my mentor's advice against it (something about "wardecking"). What do you guys think? If you recommend joining a player corp, what's a good, reputable newbie corp to join?

Many thanks in advance!


OK getting you focused on basics.

Have you done all of the tutorial missions?

And then have you done the Sisters of Eve epic Arc missions?

If not, do them, they will give you a taste of just about all aspects of Eve, and leave you with a very health wallet.

And then you have Eve Uni, a player led Corp, that everybody respects and is their to help new players out. Also, if PvP might be your thing, look to Red vs Blue warfare, they are two Corps run by the same folks but at perminent war with eachother, again, intended at a training aid for new players.

The main thing is, bothe Eve Uni and Red vs Blue will also help you get to know a lot of other players, which is a must for Eve
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2013-07-08 23:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
If you are bored or AFK while mining, you will probably get ganked.

I'm never bored or AFK while mining as I'm also:
* Watching local character counts (what's the average, spikes are bad).
* Watching local chat (gankers sometimes give warning if they think you are a bot, or boast after destroying ships).
* Watching local characters (suscpect and criminal flags, those I've given low standing to, getting to recognize the regulars).
* Watching for CONCORD messages.
* Background checks on out-of-fleet miners (evewho.com).
* Checking stats for the constellation (in-game and on DOTLAN).
* Constantly hitting the dscan button, checking for incoming ships.
* Killing NPC rates and abandoning wrecks.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-07-09 01:55:34 UTC
pretty sure I would ditch my mentor immediately if he ever wrote "wardecking"

I just imagine people building decks while a war goes on in the background O.O

Art of Explosions
Dax Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-09 12:56:28 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
pretty sure I would ditch my mentor immediately if he ever wrote "wardecking"



He didn't write it. We talk over Mumble and he said it aloud. I thought "wardecking" made sense while "Wardeccing" never occurred to me. I'm going to go put on my helmet now. The short bus is arriving to take me to school, and my mommy says I look cool in it. Oops
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-07-09 18:09:50 UTC
But yeah just: don't mine if you actually want to get anywhere in this game.

Once you're more experienced, can support multiple accounts with your main character you could think about starting an alt account for mining for afk income while you do stuff on the main.

But for the love of god, don't be a miner on your first character.

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