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Incarna: The best thing to happen to EVE?
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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-09 07:55:24 UTC
Here's something everyone can agree upon: Incarna was the best thing to happen to EVE.
Would you like to know why?
Three words: Change of direction.

It's the IncarnRAGE, tears, whining and general baby-like attitude which brought us here today. A time of a different, awesome, exciting CCP.

Without the change of direction, we may not have had the following this winter:
-Four new ships
-New cyno effect
-V3 skins for almost half the ships in EVE
-Shots which miss actually miss
-Time dilation
-Hybrid buff (They've actually been buffed again, beyond CCP Tallest's lastest devblog, you know!)
-New nebulae
-31 new T2 modules
-Implants on pod killmails
-Player owned customs offices
-Capital nerf
-New cyno effects
-Better POS refuelling
-New font
-Loot all
-Shiny shadows
-10 second shorter session change timer
-Improved autopilot
-New fitting screen
-Scalable UI
-Stargates pointing towards destination nebulae
-Destroyer buff
-SHIP SPIN COUNTER!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
-Engine trails...soon
-Ship skins...soon
-More
-MORE
-MOAR


So, three cheers for Incarna? Blink
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-11-09 07:57:10 UTC
CCP is apple

Incarna was their 1 month to bankrupcy.

The new direction is Steve's deal with Bill.

Hilmar's vision is the iPad.

Only 20 years to go.
Ann133566
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-11-09 08:06:38 UTC
My view is that we should wait until a few weeks after realese when everyone has a chance to digest the new changes and how they effect the game in practice before handing out the gold stars to CCP. But from what I've seen and heard so far, it's looking good.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2011-11-09 08:09:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
I disagree, I blame carbonization project getting done the reason why they managed to go back into space, a project that would realistically taken over a 100 people to build eve from the ground back up. 7 Years of development to be recoded from scrap into a newer language and dealing with each and every problem along the way. Adding new features was just something easily doable as eve was poised to be modular then.

First interations of Carbonization happened when planetary graphics 3.0 came out, which was right before PI happened in Tryannis, and they been at it since then. It just seems now they're at a point they can bounce quaters off it all day and get dollar coins back.

edit

BTW half of your list missing.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#5 - 2011-11-09 08:17:27 UTC
So all it took was to throw some folks out of the dirigible in front of the remaining employees and in 90 days the team produces enough FiS to make everyone feel like they are getting a real expansion.

So what were they really working on? No WoD work seems to have been done? We see there wasn't any Incarna to speak of. Must have been everyone working on the monocle.

Issler
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#6 - 2011-11-09 08:33:54 UTC
You forgot Autopiloting to Stations and a Ship Spinning Counter that isnt a fake

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-11-09 08:41:47 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
BTW half of your list missing.

?
Out of the list, here are the things which I'm not sure are on Sisi right now:
-Player owned customs offices
-Better POS refuelling
-Shiny shadows
-Stargates pointing towards destination nebulae
-Engine trails
-Ship skins


The first 3 have been devblogged, stargate changes have been confirmed by a dev, engine trails are soon(TM) and ship skins are speculation with some evidence in .stuff files.
So, that leaves 2 things which may not be done this winter.
8% of my list is missing. Not quite half.

Unless you mean that my list should be twice as big, of course!
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-11-09 08:54:13 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Here's something everyone can agree upon: Incarna was the best thing to happen to EVE.
Would you like to know why?
Three words: Change of direction.

It's the IncarnRAGE, tears, whining and general baby-like attitude which brought us here today. A time of a different, awesome, exciting CCP.

Without the change of direction, we may not have had the following this winter:

.... Lots of nice stuff .....


So, three cheers for Incarna? Blink


Be sensible. Without Incarna we would have had this stuff 18 months ago and CCP wouldn't have hired 150 employees in Atlanta only to let them go again after wasting millions of dollars and risking bankruptcy on a failed attempt at producing a 3D game engine.
Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#9 - 2011-11-09 08:55:08 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Here's something everyone can agree upon: Incarna was the best thing to happen to EVE.
Would you like to know why?
Three words: Change of direction.

-V3 skins for almost half the ships in EVE

-Shots which miss actually miss

-31 new T2 modules

-Loot all



So, three cheers for Incarna? Blink


I need more details and links on the bold items please.

New Eden Spotlight full episode list. 

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#10 - 2011-11-09 09:01:15 UTC
As far as Incarna is concerned I'm not interested until I can walk up behind a war target in a Null sec dive and shot him through the lungs. What we got wasn't worth 18 months of arrested development on FiS.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-11-09 09:05:25 UTC
Darth A30NZ wrote:

Quote:

-V3 skins for almost half the ships in EVE

-Shots which miss actually miss

-31 new T2 modules

-Loot all


I need more details and links on the bold items please.


V3 ship shaders: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30151&find=unread
I gave up trying to find the source, but you can find screenshot proof in the link above

Shots which miss actually miss: http://youtu.be/UMuN5eXU1xo
There's also a thread on the first page of GD.

New T2 modules: http://pastebin.com/TkY3rY6q
If you don't feel like scrolling through all that text:
Quote:
Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control II
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair II
Information Warfare Link - Electronic Superiority II
Information Warfare Link - Recon Operation II
Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity II
Mining Foreman Link - Harvester Capacitor Efficiency II
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
Siege Warfare Link - Active Shielding II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Efficiency II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Core Probe Launcher II
Expanded Probe Launcher II
Siege Module II
Triage Module II
Large Remote Hull Repair System II
Medium Remote Hull Repair System II
Small Remote Hull Repair System II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Capital Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bomb Launcher II
Warp Disruption Field Generator II


Loot all: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29127
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2011-11-09 09:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
add to list: missed shots animated to actually miss ships.

edit: another highly asked for and very visual/nice feature, the only thing we need now is missile turrets (on the turrets/shooting front)

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bornaa
GRiD.
#13 - 2011-11-09 10:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: bornaa
Nova Fox wrote:
I disagree, I blame carbonization project getting done the reason why they managed to go back into space, a project that would realistically taken over a 100 people to build eve from the ground back up. 7 Years of development to be recoded from scrap into a newer language and dealing with each and every problem along the way. Adding new features was just something easily doable as eve was poised to be modular then.

First interations of Carbonization happened when planetary graphics 3.0 came out, which was right before PI happened in Tryannis, and they been at it since then. It just seems now they're at a point they can bounce quaters off it all day and get dollar coins back.

edit

BTW half of your list missing.



I agree with you... about all this "past 2 years DEVS where rewriting all EVEs code" (carbonisation) i know thats the case...
just look how much things they have broken when nothing new is introduced... that you do when you rewriting the code... that are programming errors... and look at tests on SiSi... we are testing something that has not changed anything... something is changed... but under the hood...
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Tristan North
The Scope
#14 - 2011-11-09 13:59:36 UTC
And it adds the thing you love the most: NeX Store!
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-09 14:34:57 UTC
I don't want to burst your bubble but it is extremely likely that all of these things were in the making long before any announcement of them. It is very probable that even with 0 complaining this expansion would have had the exact same features added too it, maybe a few less and a few more Incarna additions but even that is unlikely.

In no way am I saying this is bad. I love all of these new fun spinny tricks and shiny Ferox skins. But the higher ups at CCP are probably laughing at how easy it is to convince masses of people of anything. "Just tell them we are giving in to their demands and give out all the examples of projects we had going for the next expansion" :D It's great but people who think they "won" >_> that is pretty funny.

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