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Fat-Cat Doctrine: Game Changer
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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#41 - 2013-07-09 00:08:09 UTC
Zappity wrote:
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare .... and the lack of end game.

And yet you are in RvB. +1
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#42 - 2013-07-09 00:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
X Gallentius wrote:
Zappity wrote:
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare .... and the lack of end game.

And yet you are in RvB. +1


Almost all of my PvP has been in Amarr/Minmatar FW region. I am familiar with FW.

You're certainly right about RvB, though. Absolutely no talk about it 'mattering'!

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Theroine
Pew Pew Pirates
#43 - 2013-07-09 05:30:02 UTC
Zappity wrote:
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult.

We do have an endgame:

To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women).

What else could you want?

Join in on the pew
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-07-09 08:48:11 UTC
Theroine wrote:
Zappity wrote:
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult.

We do have an endgame:

To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women).

What else could you want?


"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Dan Carter Murray
#45 - 2013-07-09 13:20:03 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Theroine wrote:
Zappity wrote:
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult.

We do have an endgame:

To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women).

What else could you want?


"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."


i like turtles

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#46 - 2013-07-09 13:22:24 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
i like turtles

But these Tristans are like FAST turtles. That's what makes them so dangerous.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-07-09 14:29:45 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
i like turtles

But these Tristans are like FAST turtles. That's what makes them so dangerous.


At least they are not armored hares.

Then we would all be funked.

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#48 - 2013-07-12 04:25:58 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
You would think so, but with two overdrive injectors these Tristans can move quickly to close. No, kiters are not the way to go.



Yeah you are right.
I came across a similar fit last night - Those Tristans can really Boogie.

That said - I'll leave Tristan fleets for others and stick with my Caldari ships.

I can't be seen in a Gallente ship aka a 'poo chariot'.



So you got neutral smart bomb alts ready to warp in 1st yet?


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Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#49 - 2013-07-12 08:29:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Milton Middleson
This should do the trick:

[Punisher, Charg]
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Heat Sink I
Damage Control I

1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter I

Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I

(it may run into difficulties if the Caldari switch to acolytes or neut drones, though).

I don't expect monetary recompense for my expertise, but if the FDU would erect a statue of me outside each of their stations, I would not object.
Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#50 - 2013-07-12 12:59:26 UTC
Milton Middleson wrote:
This should do the trick:

[Punisher, Charg]
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Heat Sink I
Damage Control I

1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter I

Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I

(it may run into difficulties if the Caldari switch to acolytes or neut drones, though).

I don't expect monetary recompense for my expertise, but if the FDU would erect a statue of me outside each of their stations, I would not object.

You should make place for a salvager ! To fund the fleet !
The Dissident
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-07-12 15:36:09 UTC
This'll get deleted eventually but in the meantime...hilarious

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18715778
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#52 - 2013-07-12 15:37:44 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
The Dissident wrote:
This'll get deleted eventually but in the meantime...hilarious
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18715778

Do you all see the light now? These things will be the death of us all!
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#53 - 2013-07-12 16:32:43 UTC
Damn things, I can't even jam all their drones. Someone please help me figure out how to deal with these. As it is I'll either need to stay docked up, safed up, or climb into one myself if I want to have any chance.

JUSTK is recruiting
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#54 - 2013-07-12 16:41:19 UTC
OMG! What if all their drones were EWAR drones???!!! ECM, Webbing drones, Neut drones, and Sensor damp drones! Oh Myyyyy!
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#55 - 2013-07-12 16:43:24 UTC
Yes Estella, the possibilities are endless, and terrifying. They have us in a tough spot. Either we stay safe and docked - and lose all our systems, or we fight and die - and lose all our systems anyways.

Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-07-12 18:56:15 UTC
Can you determine how the FC is getting his drones assigned? If they are passive then that is one thing, but if they are aggressive then drones themselves might be the counter. If they are aggressive and you can get drones to attack other drones by jamming/ the FC, then you are golden.

Anything that would take advantage of the FC's/fleet drone micromanagement would be good.

As far as smartbombs go, why do you take a sec status hit when using them? Is it because you are hitting friendly people who aren't in fleet?

If their fleet is orbiting at 500, then landing and orbiting at anything above 600 m/s could mitigate a lot of the autocannon damage.


Go Bushido


What about, some navitas w/ small smartbombs, remote armor reps, and a neut. Then 2 small cap boosters, and an AB.
Max out your armor tank/ resists in the lowslots/rigs. You can pretty easily be cap stable. Max skills these fat cats are going to be hitting you for 100 dps before resists. They'd only hit for about 30-40 dps each after resists max skills.

If you land on grid with 1:1 numbers, you could spread your neuts and lock up each other. Make sure you are announcing incoming damage and you would be able to tank just about all incoming damage if everyone is applying their reps to the target. You could even make sure you are keeping each other outside of smartomb range if you really want to. Obviously with these fits the EMP resist hole is pretty big on the tristans.

The obvious problem with this strategy is that you can use these to eliminate the drones and out-rep their fleet with equal numbers. Also you don't have the points, so of course they can warp away. But if they warp away then you've won and they have to figure out if they want to rebuy new drones.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#57 - 2013-07-12 19:25:25 UTC
These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-07-12 20:13:38 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia.


The truth reveals itself. This is XG's master plan to get everybody to join JUSTK!

.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#59 - 2013-07-12 20:44:13 UTC
I read the first two pages and quite. This is brilliant. The whooshing sound coming from the top of non-FW pilots' heads is deafening.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#60 - 2013-07-12 21:00:54 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
The Dissident wrote:
This'll get deleted eventually but in the meantime...hilarious
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18715778

Do you all see the light now? These things will be the death of us all!


Meh!

I'd give 27 decent fit frigs with a good FC better than even odds against 3 navy cruisers pretty much regardless of the actual frig in question. Fight was over before it started.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.