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When a cloak is active, it shuts down all module activation. Then there is the sensor recalibration time, as well as the fact you cannot target anyone whilst cloaked.

The none covert versions also stop your ship warping, as well as affect ship speeds.

If they are not limitations, then what are?

Seriously... did you just create this character to copy someone else's old joke?

Pretty lame.

no if you dont like local then move to w-space.

an auto logoff if you're inactive after say 30-60 mins or so is a good idea imo, there is no legit reason to be maintaining those people's accounts online if they arent at the computer. Now if they are at the computer then sure let them stay online but if they aren't just log them off.

You don't even need a bot. It can be done without breaking the EULA and keep you online.

I'm on the 'quit whining about afk cloaks' side of the fence. I mean seriously, afk and/or cloaked or not, you play in a sandbox game where anything can and likely will happen over the course of your gameplay experience. Deal with it.

Assume you're out in space with a suspected or known cloaky camper. You can't know if he's afk or not but you don't need to. Let me go into a few scenarios for you.

1. Safe spots. If you fear that you may be attacked by a cloaked ship, make safespots in your favored regions/systems. Not hard to do and it makes their goals more difficult to accomplish. If getting ambushed while traveling the pre-established pipelines between gates and other landmarks, don't use them. Make your own routes.

2. AFK is AFK for a reason. Any number of reasons really. The bottom line here is the player has other priorities IRL too, just like you do, just like I do for that matter. Count your blessings and quit with the 'poor me' attitude crap. You consented to this 'sandbox' experience.

3. If you have a problem with an afk camper, cloaked or not, how many 'star systems' does this game offer? That's right too many for me to even bother trying to count. If one 'system' has a camper, RELOCATE, get on with your life and quit crying on the forums about your lack of creativity. If relocation is not an option, I promise you a WARDEC is sure to turn up the heat, maybe the camper will react maybe not, but I know you'll get inside his head by doing this.

4. Ever heard of spy vs. spy? Find out where this guy lives and go pay his home turf a little 'visit' with your merry little band of outlaws. I've been involved in such tactics and it does work. For a little while or a long while, the point being if he is responsible to a corp or alliance, THEY WILL CALL FOR HIS HELP.

I could go on and on like this all day.

There is always a solution to any problem that doesn't involve crying to CCP. Get creative and let CCP worry about more important issues than some whiny childish antics because you don't want to think on your feet.

AFK cloaking - possibly the safest activity in Eve for the risk adverse griefer.

Which is why it's fans seem to have so much time to post utter bollocks on the forums.

Agreed, AFK clocking goes against the spirit of the game, no ship should be 100% safe in space. This is what the pvpers carry on about when a mission runner or a miner loses a big ship to a ganker and complains about it.

AFK clocking, playing the logging off logging on game, and covert hot drops in general make it far too easy for bad carebear pvpers with there fleets of billion isk black opps battleships, covert tengus and bomber fleets to pick and choose easy targets and pad their killboards with endless kills of mining barges and complex running ships.

One fix would be to make a long cycle probe that scans down cloaked ships in system, like make it take 15 mins to get results.
Another would be to change the way covert cynos work so people who use them actually need to use them covertly, not ontop of a warp disrupted target.

Bear with me. I'll just cloak up and put something together.

The counter is called local.

AFK cloakers say local is the problem, no more local for intel (like WH space) problem fixed.
AFK cloakers say local is the problem, no more local for intel (like WH space) problem fixed.

Lets see, In WH space, you can't hot drop ether, so that covert ops ship with scanner probes sitting afk in system, becomes just that, a covert ops ship with scanner probes

In null sec, lets look at what it is, well it could be 20 bomber, 10 ewar ships and 10 black opps battleships waiting to blow your ass up, with 0 warning apart from local and instantly jump back out again once your pod is space dust all in the time it takes your pvp defence fleet to undock. And that's in a cyno jammed system

WIthout cyno jamming..........well, could be anything.

So, back to these reds sitting "afk" in local, thing is we don't know if they are afk or not, so yes, an afk red can't hurt anyone, but that's like saying falling from a 100 story building will not hurt either, it's the hitting the ground that hurts.

Same with the reds in local, afk they don't hurt, but when they have finished their sleep, done an 8 hour day at work and gone to the movies, to come back and see there's a mining op on, or a bunch of battleships doing a complex, boom he has his free kills, no risk, 5 mins spent at the keyboard and the easiest pvp in the game, hell even high sec mission runner have more chance of losing a ship.

AFK missions.....gone
AFK ice mining.....gone
AFK freighting....gone
AFK ganking.....next to go lets hope

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No local in WH space, also no hot drops, and limited access points. Also WH space has better rewards too, for those willing to put up with the short comings off it, like no local, no jump clones and no stations, no markets and no friends.

No local in sov space would mean every gate in null sec would need to be camped with fast lock ship just to run one mining operation and then covert opps ships still get through gate camps.

Sov space should be dependable. If reds come into system, all we ask is for a fair way off getting them back out again.