EVE General Discussion

you do all what others do, right?

they did it, because they did not have the appropriate processingpower to understand my simple tactic

Think you'll find they did it to get you to uncloak seeing you kindly gave them the means to do so. Does 'green' come to mind?

On behalf of my alliance I'd like to express my deepest regrets for any inconveniences we might have caused you.
Attacking a neutral player deep inside hostile territory in 0.0 is simply unforgivable, but since we usually try to minimize collateral damage and civil casualties as much as possible, I sincerely hope that you might be able to excuse this unfortunate incident.

Test is a Nest of Pests in Vests that had Best be put to Rest with Zest.. by Xerxes?

TEST? In VKF? Why would we go to that shithole?


And I think you're the new Socratic.

Go to your overview setting.

Set everything neutral, criminal, bounty, bad, terrible or with no standing with a red background. Next thing you see something red on your overview, shoot first, then ask nice nicely if he's a goon or not.

So let's see....

Harry is actually doing what everybody says people should be doing.


And encountered some of the standard asshattery "kill everything that moves" mentality of nullsec.


He writes about it.


Now, first, there is no "personal vendetta". You neckbeards need to stop acting like highsec miners who got ganked, acting like this program is personal. We have here a game where you can put weapons on most of the ships except those specifically designed for other roles (Badgers are an exception it seems). Just seeing all of the butthurt over "carebears go to nullsec" is well worth the time and ISK I put into supplying Harry with hundreds of ships. That's right, he's the Energizer Bunny now. And I'm not the only benefactor. Heck there are others who put me to shame and have provided things I can't talk about.

Second, all this "let me tell you how nullsec works" crap. Let me tell you something, Harry and his cohorts KNOW exactly how nullsec "works" and that's what is fueling this endeavor.

Oh so nullsec "works" by:
- Bending your knees before some existing corporatist feudalistic nullsec entity (renter corp or "owning" alliance) and paying taxes to them so they can pay a billion ISK a month for the all holy "SOV" just for the right to run anoms and be just as much as a carebear as someone grinding LVL 4s in a pimped ship highsec.
- Killing everything that moves and/or "not blue" (because there's consequences if you kill blue and it's all about not having consequences) for no particular reason.
- Following orders of sorts. For people who scream "this is a sandbox!" you certainly love being told what kind of where where regarding the sandcastles you build. Just look at the butthurt Harry is causing by not doing it "your way". Funny thing is, it's only the way of nullsec overlords, but I see players adopting it likes it's "their way". Stockholm Syndrome much?
- Putting your crap neckbeardery up as some kind of superior lifestyle while being carebears safely past the gank pipelines and bubble camps and then acting like highsec is the wellspring from whence all that is wrong in the game flows. The truth is, a casual highsec player is simply not as miserable as a nullsec player and most if the nullbears can't stand that.



Now, as for "personal", attacking nullsec cannot be personal because who knows anybody personally enough? Nobody. Sure, people will parrot "it's just a game" while at the same time enjoying real world tears. So I know there's a big lie going on here. This is why the most dangerous thing to this "system" is so much as a small minority of "bears" who don't care about ships being destroyed and getting podded. Oooh we are all supposed to be afraid of that! Bullshit. This is a game. It's a PVP game too. Yeah there are some people who won't. So what. A lot of people lack time for a good game of cat and mouse. So what. The very essence of the grand struggle of ideals is this nasty habit that people have for sitting around hating on or being concerned with how or what other people are doing.


It's NULLSEC that makes is personal and makes is "serious business". Nobody asked them. Oh the horror, people going to nullsec in T1 ships and cheap clones, attacking the residents there, who "worked so hard" because that's how nullsec works!

So, with that level of potential butthurtery the "system" of nullsec has set itself up for, did nullsec expect highsec to believe the "you get ganked in two seconds!!!!1!!!eleven (unless you first join a nullsec corp or alliance after years of building SP and ISK)" lies?

Nullsec PAYS to be there. People go there to rack up ISK, then complain about people racking up ISK in highsec because those people have not bent over too.

The days of shoot-everything-that-moves for no reason is going to come to an end. There will still be alliances - those that are not going to play King of the Space Mountain, those that have an NRDS policy. Otherwise, new players will be encouraged to start in PVP early on, and go to nullsec, and hunt targets. They will be aimed at those who want to kill everything that's "not blue". If it were up to me, nullsec would be a deserted belt of PVP and mining. But hey, some of you fools want to bring RL to a game and "work" out there and then be butthurt when someone else wants to tell your beloved system to stick it so don't blame it on me when the inevitable happens.

And highsec has the capability to do it too. It has the numbers, it has the production slots (though I admit that nullsec needs more) and oh, want to dec people? Fine it's "drop corp" time because it's not about your system it's about PVP in every way using every tool.


What we must finally wage war against is not a specific organization, nor a specific kind of player, but a specific system based on an ideology. Up to now, it has been perfectly acceptable to bring "emergent gameplay" to highsec and burn Jita.

Why not the other way around?

What I have seen in the mostly deserted nullsec (been out there for months exploring without seeing other ships) is the same mentality of that could be compared to people who fly 30 billion ISK pimp ships and blitz incursions all day. Nullsec has the addition of this corporatist feudalistic system that appears to appeal only to people who like that crap - those running it along with those victimized by it but convince themselves they like it (lest they realize they have been fooled).


So remember, laugh at Harry all you want, but all that millions and millions of ISK you make "per hour" means that if you spend an hour trying to hunt some noob in a dessie that cost 5 million ISK for the noob, that dessie cost YOU the ISK you lost.

Asymmetric warfare is the future of Eve. Get with it or be sad panda.

I was going to reply, but when someone who rants against goons bangs on and on about neckbeards and butthurt, then I have to ask

Are you a goon alt?

Also, you have a lot of hatred for people you have never met. Is this healthy?


The level of ad hominem you throw at a wide group of individuals "
You are all....
You neckbeards....
The truth is, a casual highsec player is simply not as miserable as a nullsec player and most if the nullbears can't stand that.
Bending your knees before some existing corporatist feudalistic nullsec entity (renter corp or "owning" alliance) and paying taxes to them so they can pay a billion ISK a month for the all holy "SOV" just for the right to run anoms and be just as much as a carebear as someone grinding LVL 4s in a pimped ship highsec.

You think sov gives only the access to anoms?

How do you think Null will have the extra building slots you say it needs, without sov, or blues?

You seem to think in a setup where no body is friends with anybody, then everyone will help each other.

This is Eve, the whole server needs flushed, scrubed with a wire brush, then made wear a bio warfare suit!