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CCP Games Announces Former EA Executive Sean Decker as Senior Vice President

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#801 - 2013-07-07 01:56:50 UTC
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/29/interview-ea-sean-decker-play4free-games_n_2211813.html

"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - nuff said

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lol
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#802 - 2013-07-07 02:15:18 UTC
Inokuma Yawara wrote:

Ganking will not be possible with the new "themepark" DLC that are coming.


CCP doesn't need any new DLC stuff to prevent ganking. It's as simple as "If ship is in highsec, force safety to green".

Profit favors the prepared

Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#803 - 2013-07-07 02:34:54 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
... We know CCP listens and responds, sometimes slower than we like and sometimes with alarming speed. Sometimes CCP screws up, sometimes they don't. When we think they are headed the wrong way, we let them know. Only once has CCP and the player base had a serious disagreement, in my memory anyway. (Granted T20 and the carrier change created some big kerfluffles, but not to the degree of the summer of rage.) The disagreement was centered around the whole micro transactions question and the integrity of the sandbox with regards to pay to win aka golden ammo.

So far this thread and the mood I sense from the community is no where near making any credible threats. This is a shot across the bow at best, letting CCP know we have not forgotten and we hope they haven't either. The reasonable among us are pretty sure CCP has not forgotten and views, as we do, the integrity of the sandbox as paramount...



Well said. At the very least the new VP at CCP will get a sense of what would incense the player base.

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.

Clair Bear
Perkone
Caldari State
#804 - 2013-07-07 07:08:58 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
[quote=Inokuma Yawara]

CCP doesn't need any new DLC stuff to prevent ganking. It's as simple as "If ship is in highsec, force safety to green".


How much revenue would a unit provide to buy a "ganking immunity booster" for say 7 days? $5? A PLEX? 10 PLEXes? The value proposition for absolute safety when mining or missioning in highsec is definitely there.

Plenty of ways to sell this as DLC as well. "Purchase this to unlock stasis field generators on your pod. Each stasis generator recharge pack (available in the NEX store) activates to provide 20 seconds of invulnerability whenever the player is damaged by another player in highsec. Stock up and save!"

And IMO something like this would fly with the vast majority of the player base. Pimped out mission runners and 23x7 miners would be all over it. Gankers might be at peace with it because ostensibly every time they shoot at an "immune" person it costs them a bunch of cash.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#805 - 2013-07-07 07:50:50 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
WoW is not the "last bastion" of subscription only, and it sure as hell doesnt have "50% of all the MMO players", both of those statements are so highly exaggerated that your entire post loses merit.


Living in that oyster again?

Name any MMO that is subscription only that has more than 9 million players.

There isn't any.

Take all of these Western MMOs and put them together, and WoW will still have over half the player base in MMOs.

Anything else is cynicism.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#806 - 2013-07-07 08:33:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
WoW is not the "last bastion" of subscription only, and it sure as hell doesnt have "50% of all the MMO players", both of those statements are so highly exaggerated that your entire post loses merit.


Living in that oyster again?

Name any MMO that is subscription only that has more than 9 million players.

There isn't any.

Take all of these Western MMOs and put them together, and WoW will still have over half the player base in MMOs.

Anything else is cynicism.

Now remove the circa 50% of WoW players that reside in Asia, seeing as you've specifically excluded Asian MMOs you may as well exclude Asian players as well.

By the wat your numbers are out by around 10%, WoW currently has a total of just over 8 million subscribers including those from Asia, not 9 million.

edit - oh I forgot, you have me blocked because I, among others, pull you up on the stupid crap you spout about how Eve needs to follow WoWs example and appeal to the masses, even though it's been doing very well following its own path for the last 10 years.

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#807 - 2013-07-07 14:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Take all of these Western MMOs and put them together, and WoW will still have over half the player base in MMOs.

Anything else is cynicism.


First of all, everybody knows that lol WoW lol is dead, and throwing pandas in there ain't gonna bring it back.

Second, if you remove your head out of Blizzard's ass for a bit and look around, you will see other sucessful games out there and think a bit before you make such statements.

ArenaNet's (former Blizzard employees and WoW devs) Guild Wars has sold over 6.5 million copies in 5 years http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/31/guild-wars-surpasses-6-5-million-sales-sequel-will-be-released/

Guild Wars 2 in the first 4 months upon release sold over 3 million http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/15/guild-wars-2-sales-figures-future-plans-revealed

and runs the only healthy and sustainable micro-transaction system for an MMO http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/14/guild-wars-2-microtransaction-sales-have-been-consistent-and-strong/

(EVERYTHING in the ingame store -boosts/consumables/armor and weapon skins/vanity items/account upgrades/etc- can be obtained with gems. Gems work like PLEX in EVE, which are bought with real money by someone, and spent directly or traded to other players for gold. The game market is player driven and the PVP is attribute balanced so it dont matter much if ur level 1 or 80 and if you grinded up fast using **** ton of xp boosters and other **** from the gemstore) Only like this can a micro-transaction using game truly remain free2play and not pay2win, and keep a steady cashflow income instead of a fast buck and DIAF situation (e.g. Dust514).
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#808 - 2013-07-07 14:21:24 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Take all of these Western MMOs and put them together, and WoW will still have over half the player base in MMOs.

Anything else is cynicism.


First of all, everybody knows that lol WoW lol is dead, and throwing pandas in there ain't gonna bring it back.


Any everybody knows if you continue to insult half the MMO players, you'll have a dead game. Why come to a game that from the start doesn't care about them?

EvE isn't going anywhere until it looks to attract the very players you insult...and yeah, you'll need them from everywhere, including WoW.

Business 101.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#809 - 2013-07-07 14:47:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Any everybody knows if you continue to insult half the MMO players, you'll have a dead game.
Not really, no. It just means that it's a half you're not interested in because they're not interested in you. COD does not compete with farmville for players and can take as many swipes at them as they'd like without affecting their bottom line.

Quote:
EvE isn't going anywhere until it looks to attract the very players you insult.
Why would EVE want to attract them? They want a game that EVE will never offer. The WoW players who are interested in playing EVE are playing EVE already, and will gladly join in with the WoW-trashing.

Oh, and no, that's not Business 101. Business 101 is “don't try to replace your existing (huge) customer base with an imaginary one that you hope to attract”.
Fairren
HellrisCorp
#810 - 2013-07-07 14:57:08 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


Any everybody knows if you continue to insult half the MMO players, you'll have a dead game. Why come to a game that from the start doesn't care about them?


You pretend to be so concerned about driving away players by trashing WoW, yet you don't care at all about driving them away by relentlessly promoting another game. Could you be more of a hypocrite?

Ace Uoweme wrote:

EvE isn't going anywhere until it looks to attract the very players you insult...and yeah, you'll need them from everywhere, including WoW.

Business 101.

That's provably false. SWG was drastically altered to attempt to bring in WoW players. EVE is still here. SWG is not.
Fairren
HellrisCorp
#811 - 2013-07-07 15:09:19 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
The problem with people like Sean is that they see the users as numbers, and the last thing they care about is how the users feel about the game. All that matters is money. This is why EA has the reputation it has. Same goes for companies like NCSoft, where they only see players as a cash cow to be milked dry in as short a time as possible to appease investors.

I've not done a lot of in depth research on it, but in my experience in both games and real world businesses, I have never seen a new executive hire who did a complete turn away from his or her ideals. In fact, most companies that I've come across hire people because of those ideals and beliefs.

To that end, CCP likely hired Sean for the very reasons that concern the player-base the most. To me, that says a lot about what the top end of the CCP employment chain thinks about us as well. Sometimes I find myself in game wondering what happened to CCP, and who exactly it is that controls things now.

Hopefully, this hire is about DUST rather than EVE.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#812 - 2013-07-07 15:15:15 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Ace Uoweme wrote:
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell


poor George Orwell, must be rolling in his grave watching his shiet quoted by this douche lol
Josef Djugashvilis
#813 - 2013-07-07 19:59:12 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Take all of these Western MMOs and put them together, and WoW will still have over half the player base in MMOs.

Anything else is cynicism.


First of all, everybody knows that lol WoW lol is dead, and throwing pandas in there ain't gonna bring it back.


Any everybody knows if you continue to insult half the MMO players, you'll have a dead game. Why come to a game that from the start doesn't care about them?

EvE isn't going anywhere until it looks to attract the very players you insult...and yeah, you'll need them from everywhere, including WoW.

Business 101.


You are obviously a great fan of Wow, nothing wrong with that I guess.

But, for God's sake this is an Eve Online forum.

Stop with the WoW crap already.

This is not a signature.

Tazling Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#814 - 2013-07-07 20:32:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I just thought. What if Frank is leaving EA because he hates it too?



Another thought, What if EA asked Frank to leave because he screwed up EA even more than it was?


Not sure if that means he did things the playerbase liked or things they hated...

EA do wan't to be the most hated company in the world right?



They must, they have won the Americas worse company contest two years in a row, and well on their way to three.
EA is the only gaming company I have sworn to never spend a penny on again.
Kururugi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#815 - 2013-07-08 04:46:42 UTC
Uh oh....
Varren Dar'khel
Flux Divinity
#816 - 2013-07-08 07:28:29 UTC
One of the draws for myself and I would image others is the fact that you are not affiliated with EA/Activision entities.

I find it absolutely pitiful that you would hire a scumbag from a corporation known to be despised by a large and vast portion of the game industry.

You do this to solve what you call problems developing multiple titles at the same time. This is because of your over-reaching greed and arrogance.

Instead of developing real content, we get useless confusing bullshit like the new skill rename which sounds like a an illiterate hobo wrote them, and content like the AURUM garbage and 4 prison cells you call WIS.

Where is the REAL content. (i.e. SOV changes, Modular POSes, and probably a thousand other things the playerbase has been asking for.)

And then I look at where the resources missing from EVE are going and I see you can't even develop your other titles properly.

You ****** DUST is the ass by making it FTP and exclusive to the PS3(I don't blame CCP because its not on Xbox that was Microsoft's fault. but no PC version, thats on CCP ), I have no faith you won't **** World of Darkness similarly.

If you need to hire a useless executive **** from EA (i.e. Greed Inc.) to develop three games maybe you need to put one on the back burner.

Instead of learning the lesson of Incarnageddon Hilmar gave lip-service at the time, and I'm slowly seeing CCP has no intention of holding to what was said. I will watch very closely, and if this trend keeps up Sub cancellations may be in order.

Remember who made you the company you are, and remember Incarna .

TL:DR This shows the true face of CCP and a glimpse at possible future business practices, and it is appalling.
Josef Djugashvilis
#817 - 2013-07-08 14:17:43 UTC
Varren Dar'khel wrote:
One of the draws for myself and I would image others is the fact that you are not affiliated with EA/Activision entities.

I find it absolutely pitiful that you would hire a scumbag from a corporation known to be despised by a large and vast portion of the game industry.

You do this to solve what you call problems developing multiple titles at the same time. This is because of your over-reaching greed and arrogance.

Instead of developing real content, we get useless confusing bullshit like the new skill rename which sounds like a an illiterate hobo wrote them, and content like the AURUM garbage and 4 prison cells you call WIS.

Where is the REAL content. (i.e. SOV changes, Modular POSes, and probably a thousand other things the playerbase has been asking for.)

And then I look at where the resources missing from EVE are going and I see you can't even develop your other titles properly.

You ****** DUST is the ass by making it FTP and exclusive to the PS3(I don't blame CCP because its not on Xbox that was Microsoft's fault. but no PC version, thats on CCP ), I have no faith you won't **** World of Darkness similarly.

If you need to hire a useless executive **** from EA (i.e. Greed Inc.) to develop three games maybe you need to put one on the back burner.

Instead of learning the lesson of Incarnageddon Hilmar gave lip-service at the time, and I'm slowly seeing CCP has no intention of holding to what was said. I will watch very closely, and if this trend keeps up Sub cancellations may be in order.

Remember who made you the company you are, and remember Incarna .

TL:DR This shows the true face of CCP and a glimpse at possible future business practices, and it is appalling.


Golly! Angry is as angry says.

My gut feeling is that the new chap will be told to deal with DUST as it is a F2P game after all, and this is where Sean's area of 'expertise' is.

I do not believe that CCP have any intentions of, nor are they daft enough to introduce any sort of gold ammo or DLC which can give any player an unfair advantage.

Barbie stuff which can be paid for, I do not care about.

This is not a signature.

raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#818 - 2013-07-08 21:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Varren Dar'khel wrote:


TL:DR This shows the true face of CCP and a glimpse at possible future business practices, and it is appalling.


TL:DR True face of CCP - "Crowd Control Productions" - Group of university graduates intensely brainwashed with capitalistic/sociopathic business practice theories, lacking a creative vision, who think they are intellectually superior to the crowd that feeds them, because they can effectively delude and milk them, without actually delivering any game content.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#819 - 2013-07-08 22:21:15 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Varren Dar'khel wrote:


TL:DR This shows the true face of CCP and a glimpse at possible future business practices, and it is appalling.


TL:DR True face of CCP - "Crowd Control Productions" - Group of university graduates intensely brainwashed with capitalistic/sociopathic business practice theories, lacking a creative vision, who think they are intellectually superior to the crowd that feeds them, because they can effectively delude and milk them, without actually delivering any game content.



Think you're a bit unfair there.

Should they add content ? Certainly not of the style of games like WoW.
Why? Because it's a sandbox.


However they should add tools that can be used to make player content.

They could also on occasions hold limited events (if they have time and resources).


The main people lacking the creative vision are the people playing, those that are used to games like WoW, GW2 that maps out what you have to do and uses achievements to add so called content on the cheap.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#820 - 2013-07-08 22:57:15 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Six Six Six wrote:
Think you're a bit unfair there.

Should they add content ? Certainly not of the style of games like WoW.
Why? Because it's a sandbox.



If the only kind of content you can think of is fantasy themed, then your creative vision/ ability to create some is as good as CCP's. EVE is a sci-fi universe game, therefore, it's content is sci-fi themed.

Six Six Six wrote:


However they should add tools that can be used to make player content


Hum, interesting. I'm kinda curious now, could you please tell me... do these "tools" and "player content" of yours include anything besides war waging corporations and their tools to exploit asteroids, moons, planets in a capitalist fashion race for profit? Maybe a little programming gimmick or sume number crunching with a new photoshop colorful picture on top that you call an "expansion"?