Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Try neuting your target.

You also better make your suggestions in Features & Ideas Discussion.

You already have it, and it's a good one. Buff single web, but with high stacking penalty. The current "dual web or nothing" mentality is ample proof why this is needed.

No offence, but this is exactly the point of the Features & Ideas Discussion forum.

Why? It's a discussion about modules...

Using ridiculously expensive ships isn't a solution to webs being bad.

What about removing the stacking penalty on the first 3-5 webber drones?

... No seriously

if you wanna change 60 to a higher number...
be sure to remember there are several ship with 50% velocity factor bonus.

That is even if changed to 70%, some ship will have 105% speed down webs.

That is simply 0 velocity.

So what about boost webs and keep vindicator's web at 90?
The answer is if you boost webs and keep the others at 90%, you are actually nerfing those ships.

So it is not a simple question only realted to webs.

Demanding a buff to ridiculously cheap modules isn't a solution to fight expensive ships.

See what I did there?

I wasted years of fighting this particular windmill.

90% webs and extreme lethal close range pvp mechanics where never a problem, they levelled the playing field between nano fittings that could only do limited dps by her speeds and close range fittings, that forced a rather lethal and quick combat style, somewhat counterbalance the lack of gtfo ability.

The idea was that people that you forced into point blank fights couldn't survive this engagement(because they didn't understand the mechanics) and from her perception an web was obvious the item that killed them all the time, since a skilled close range pvper could use it to bend tracking dynamics vie kitting at point blank to his will(what still works with setups outside of web range today) and crushed paper thin tanked nano fittings with peak dps at his range. Between equally skilled close range pvpers it was never a issue, since movement was possible and you need to decide if the sig bloom and giving your opponent the extra applied dps by it was worth the move.

Was it better than scram and 60% web? Yes it was, especially for solo pvp, since it was a lot less restrictive against multiple opponents and a lot less binary than the scram mechanics we have today. Did anything in bigger fights improve? No not at all, since web stacking made the change completely meaningless to them.

On top of it, it made solo/small gang blaster pvp completely useless. Throwing buff after buff at it to compensate for being supposed to fight at a range where the weapon became utterly useless is not good game design but a endless string of bad decisions, because nobody addresses the main problem: That the hulls lack the ability to stay mobile and apply damage properly at her range. Something that is hilarious bad if you directly compare it to nano kitting pvp, where the later even got a gtfo ability, on top of getting the same options to use range, mobility and sig bloom to improve applied dps.

christ as if having the option of 60% webs on rapiers with 100km range with links or faction webs....
i would think a nerf to web strength and maybe even range is more balanced than the other way around.
Also nerf the pirate bonus 90% webs are insanely OP.

All you need is a combo of geddons/curses, arazu/lachesis, Rapier/Huginn, and even a basic link as optional and you can control a fight upto 40km quite easily. which i think is a little OP really

even EAF have the range to do the job