Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Improved concept.

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and feedback,

No im not trolling im just opening up an idea concept to make smaller groups and solo play more achievable in deep higher valued space / sites / target rich environment / mining, or just plain grieffing.

Good call on the ability of 2000 man alliances being able to use this direction of idea as a massive advantage so yes I agree its design is flawed and the first concept wont work.

The idea of having it paper thin but very hard to find holds more merit than I had thought of, this is more effective to what I am thinking about.Good idea.


Attribute;"Unit";"Micro tower,
Base Price;"ISK";200,000,000
CPU;"tf";1000
Powergrid;"MW";550000
Structure HP;"HP";50000
Cargo Capacity;"m3";5000
Mass;"kg";10000
Volume;"m3";1000

EM Resistance;"%";25
Explosive Resistance;"%"25
Kinetic Resistance;"%";25
Thermal Resistance;"%";25
Strontium Bay;"m3";1500
Armor HP;"HP";25000
Shield HP;"HP";100000
Shield recharge time;"s";60000
EM Resistance;"%";0
Explosive Resistance;"%";25
Kinetic Resistance;"%";25
Thermal Resistance;"%";0
Shield Radius;"m";7500
Signature Radius;"m";5

Activation proximity;"m";2500
Anchoring Delay;"s";1000
Unanchoring Delay;"s";1000
Anchoring, "Anywhere"
Onlining Delay;"s";450

Control Tower Size;"MICRO"
Fuel Block;"per hour";5
Strontium Clathrates;"per hour";50

Bonus
Ships within shields, "Undetectable on scan or probe"
Shield/tower, "Undetectable on ship scanner"

(Pods in within shields at the time of destruction are ejected from their ships and torn apart from the destabilization of the energy field) ?????

This concept will allow the exploration of deep space by players with small corps or stand alone solo pilots and have some level of security, Deploy small rapid gangs with in hostile territory for maximum grieffing.

There would be no advantage for alliances covering their moons with these as they cant fit any equipment to benefit the greater good.

I would like to hear comments and feedback, yes I expect alliances to get upset by this because it would allow some of their members to go have solo fun...

Good hunting
Stay safe
EEL

So you basically want a mobile tree fort. That you can run and hide in, if you find someone meaner than you. That can field up to 20 Large guns, with a bonus. Yep cant see anything that could go wrong with this idea AT all. Coming to you Soon, Mobile semi Death star, temp. holding/harassment micro POS on every moon near you.

There are bad ideas, terrible ideas, and terribad ideas.

3 guesses which one, and hint: it's not in the dictionary.


Inflatable, cheap, easy to haul, quick onlining, scary as ****, dreadnaught immune death-star, coming to you soon for the low low price of...


Get out of here, I can only assume you are trolling.

You want a POS you can pop up in minutes, make it immune to anything under 50 BS's, and have 70% omniresists?

Fine. I want it to consume 200 fuel blocks an hour. No I'm not kidding. You want invincibility on demand, the you need a downside.
200 fuel blocks an hour.

this

I can certainly see some of the downsides to this, but I've spent most of my time in eve playing with the same 10 or so people in one corp or another. It's true that eve makes it much harder for a small group to survive in the more fun environments of eve.

I think perhaps some aspects of this idea have merit. Don't make it so hard to kill, and definitely lose the big guns, but maybe make it harder to find? More of a stealthy little tree fort.

I see what you want here and why but....

Major corps and alliances can afford virtually endless amounts of anything including 1000s of these things making this idea ,which might be innocent enough in the hands of a 20 man corp, into an unfathomable nightmare in the hands of a 2000+ man alliance.

Even in a nerfed down form of what you are asking for the major alliances will still drive the rest of bonkers with this sort of item.

Assuming OP isn't trolling,

The problem is that what you are proposing is better in every way compared to the current POS towers; after reading this I'm honestly not sure how familiar OP is with the realities of a POS life.

50 BS a 3 hour long engagement to kill? Assuming each BS does a measly 500 DPS, that comes out to a staggering total of 270 million HP. That's nearly 5 times the HP of a large control tower!

Only holds 5 pilots? Is that such a huge deal when you could throw up dozens of these things at once - as a result of the "very low fuel cost to run".

Only able to fit an SMA and CHA - big deal. With the proposed 70% resists across the board, no need to fit hardeners anyhow.

Bonus to large POS guns and able to fit 20 of them - dude, do you realise that even a large control tower can barely fit 16 large guns, if it forsakes all other fittings as well? Again, you're proposing something in every way better than what currently exists.

Can not fit sov mods or fleet advantage items - again, I'm not sure OP is familiar with how fleet bonuses work. AFK boosters in a POS aren't actually anchored to the POS, they're just ships that sit in the POS while running their fleet links.

"Can be fit in a blockade runner or similar hauling ship, including maintenance array tower and ship hanger and fuel." - not actually sure what the last half of this sentence means, OP, but it sounds like you're saying you could put this thing in a carrier's ship hangar, fleet hangar, or fuel bay. So wait, again, this thing is supposed to be better in every way than anything that currently exists?

Also, can be fit in a blockade runner - again, not sure if OP is aware, but even a large control tower can fit in a blockade runner with cargo expanders.

No siege effect - again, better in every way.

No reinforced mode, stuff can be taken once the tower is destroyed in a single go - but wait! You've already said this thing could only carry ship and corporate hangar arrays, which could be evacced while those 5 battleships are taking 3 hours to kill this thing. This isn't really as huge a downside as you think it is.




OP, you say that this would aid the single players and small groups, let me ask you this:

If I show up with 2 or 3 of my friends in a system and see someone living out of one of these things, how the hell am I supposed to fight them?

*backhandslap*

Low-sec is awesome. I've always flown with the same 5 to 20 people for 4 years and we have a blast (along with impressive killboards). You just have to accept that sometimes there are bigger and nastier fish than you and that you have to use more than one tactic (hint: kiting and nano-bullcrap).

Feed back on this latest concept??

Small groups wishing to live in dangerous space rent a system from one of the big alliances. As for "a safe place to log off in enemy territory", I personally think that entire concept is flawed. It's enemy territory. There is not supposed to be a safe place!

To me, a "micro" POS is unnecessary and a "scout" POS would be something like a small T2 control tower which is exactly the same as a T1 variant except that it doesn't send a notice to the sov holders when you anchor it. Would require anchoring 5.