EVE General Discussion

Anybody here remember when EVE had only 5000 players on at most? I do.

I also don't recall reviews being very kind, actually I don't think anyone reviewed it at all the first couple of years.

Potential is a good thing regardless of where Dust is at now in it's cycle. Look around here for proof.

Peace.

You never watch the myth busters episode on this? At the end you really couldn't tell that it was a turd. It looked like a precious stone. There's a message there somewhere...

Sum of it.

F2P or what it really is P2W is a death to a game. It doesn't expect much, won't over much, but it can operate for pennies and stay around. It caters to whales (and what will become of them, dinosaurs), who want something special for their dime. The results are predictable as gamers see it in the 100001 F2P/P2W games out there.

BF3 can get away with DLC as well as EvE, as both have a built in community that's put too much time into the franchise to just leave. A new game doesn't have that backbone. If it's not successful at release, there's no going back, it's dead. MMOs are cruel for this, RIFT and SWTOR are examples of over 100 million dollars down the drain. What they offered wasn't enough to keep players playing (bottom line in games).

I don't play DUST not because it wouldn't be interesting to try it out, but I haven't had a console since '78, and have no interest to start today. Very niched offering. And frankly, I played BF2142 and that memory is special (most fun I ever had in a game), to play something similar would make that vanish, to be replaced by all the current issues and gripes. Want to remember it as I left it, a couple days after that DICE competition (like the day I left EQII after that nasty avatar guild got it's due). A fine memory to always remember.

DUST like EvE needs a larger audience. Xbox, PS4 and PC. And not be P2W. We're not all whales, we'll pay our keep, but despise being nickel and dimed to play.

Did you see the mic being dropped?

That means your goading is now irrelevant.

Biomass.

Dust will do fine. It's reception has been luke warm lately, but I can only imagine how much other developers are investing in counter reviews just to keep it below their blockbuster titles.

Dust is actually a decent games with a lot of rough edges, but for a first time AAA title, it's got the foundation to be one of the most successful out there and I genuinely believe that in time, it will become one of the premiere FPS's on the market.

At this point, anyone calling for Dust's head is pretty short sighted and ignorant. CCP Branching out to other mediums and reinforcing Dust, the EVE VR and the mobile games/apps success will mean good things for EVE long term. Not being able to see this means you are closed minded and need to stop treating CCP as your girlfriend who is not allowed to play the field.

Get a grip.

EVE is unique of itself whereas dust is a poorly done FPS whose micro-transaction system, poor mechanics, and little returns on time invested makes it bad.

Dust is precisely what it was back in the day: a pet project.

Honestly, I think the better idea would be to keep the talented developers working on EVE, and transfer some of the newer developers to work on DUST.

The reason being is that EVE developers are used to developing for EVE: that entails MMO mechanics, working with the specific game engine, etc. There is a world of difference between an FPS and an MMO. With one team learning the ropes and gaining experience specific to shooters, and the dedicated (and experienced) EVE team keeping us happy, CCP can save themselves a lot of trouble in the future.

Blizzard could justify pulling the A team off of WoW because they were MMO developers working on another MMO. CCP needs to dedicate a special team for building and maintaining an FPS, because while said developers are undeniably talented at developing MMO's, MMOs are hardly similar to shooters.

Think of it as a team of specialized mansion builders trying to build a hospital. Sure, you CAN have them build a hospital, but they will focus more on aesthetics than practicability, space constraints, medical facility requirements, etc. whereas a hospital team will probably build it a lot more efficiently, the final product will operate much more smoothly, and they will probably be far better at maintaining it, too.

EDIT: I wouldn't mind them doing more work on EVR, if anything. That is amazing on its own two feet, imagine what it can do with some TLC!

SWTOR is dead. You're used to playing dead games and can't see otherwise.

SWTOR wasn't a sandbox game. It's a typical George Lucas game that gets botched, just like SWG (which I warned folks about, because he interferes with development...NGE for example. People blamed SOE over it, but they are only licensed to have made it, Lucas had full control in what he wanted presented. Same with SWTOR, and only recently did he sell off the rights. DICE now has gotten the contract).

Yeah, I do know something about these games.

Spend a lot of time and money customising your fit - check

Get shot in the back or ganked by mega-corps as soon as you step out the door - check

Realise that none of it matters since everything is already controlled by the same cliques of players that have been in control for years - check.

EVE players should love it.

But you *can*...it just takes a lot of work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI