Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Right, so, please do not make things up about what the nullsec experience is for miners. Based on my experience mining in nullsec, you're entirely wrong about it in pretty well every aspect.

So...the entire CFC, the entirety of whatever TEST are calling themselves these days, presumably the other half of the old HBC too, and basically anyone else who isn't an awful renting group or IRC then?

You're another one with no real nullsec experience making things up, aren't you.

As for finding ore sites with the scanner, my miner loves that. If you're too lazy to watch intel and leave when someone gets close, that's your own fault.

Why would any nullsec entity want someone to join their community, with access to all the opportunities that their space has opened up for nothing at all in return? What about the current industrialists that live out there, mine out there, and fight for their right to mine out there? You suppose that nullsec space is just claimed and secure forever? You being a high-sec risk averse player would not know this but nullsec is full of hostiles. These hostiles don't just stop at a roam every few days. They form up in large fleets (100+ at minimum) to take space from others. You say it is unfair for you, an industrialist that would reap all the benefits of large ore sites full of ABCs, with support from other players providing Rorqual boosts, with support from the rest of alliance providing intel on enemy movements, with support of those who established the infrastructure that makes living in nullsec even possible, you believe they deserve NOTHING in return. You want to go out there, harvest the systems they have brought out of worthlessness, and give nothing at all in return? Does that seem fair to you? You that wont even pick up a frigate to help defend your space, you expect others to give you all these opportunities? Why should they? In there eyes all you do is take take take and give none back. What in this world has made you so incredibly greedy? You are right when you say nobody would ever want you in their nullsec alliance. You are worthless to them.

Yet you want high sec ore compression introduced so that you can increase your profits in high sec. Doesn't sound like you want to go out to me, you just want a more risk-free environment. NOPE.

There is ore and compressed ore in game. Adding yet a third type, call it "semi-compressed" or whatever, would be a major coding hassle. Face, CCP has enough issues dealing with the EVE code on stuff that really does need to be fixed.

I'd like to see some stations have compression facilities in them, which take up to 25% of the ore they compress. Obviously not the same stations that have refineries.

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris.........Danika Princip ......are you on another planet .....industrial corps are not welcome in cfc ....get in the pvp fleet of get out that's there attitude and don't tell me any different cause I lived there .....Why do all you people ***** about high sec???? ........................If people wanna live in high and compress ore so what ......you live in null worry bout where you live .............................oooooo they want it to be safe ...we want them to come to null so we can laugh when we blow em up and call em stupid .....wow you people are D*I*CK*H*E*A*D*S

Maybe we don't want our industrial guys to wind up ever more nerfed compared with the near 100% risk free highseccers? Plenty of industrial guys around, someone's got to keep the war machine supplied.

As I understand the logic behind the rorqual, the ore compression mechanic is to lessen the strain on logistics lines when moving across null or from null to high. This seems to make sense to me as high-to-high logistics are much simpler and require much less effort then across null or null to high.

Your suggestion seems to go against the general premise without much logic to support it other then "it'd make it easier for high-sec mining foremans". While I can see no obvious benefits other then increasing isk/hour solely for these players, it does have the added detriment of removing one of the bonuses of the already under-used low/null mining.

While I agree 0.0 is a largely PvP place, I think the lack of miners there are not because the PvP'ers are mining-averse but because the miners are PvP-averse. That is my personal opinion, but is something I've learned from exposure both to the mining and 0.0 communities.

tl;dr Your argument lacks pros to outweigh the cons
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take away perfect refine in hisec, problem solved. then it wouldn't matter what station you refine in.

if you want all the benefits of concord and crimewatch you should pay for it, just like nullsec miners pay refinery taxes to the station owners and wormholers lose 25% just to have any refinery on their pos at all.