Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I already suggested Racial industrial 3-5 + Advanced Spaceship command 3.
But your so busy trying to find things to nitpick about, I guess you must have missed it.



Thank you. Exactly what i'm trying to say.
But yeah as I said, i'm done 'fleshing out' for them'. Making the basic suggestion was my part, implementing it into the actual game is CCP's job, should they take any interest.

Well, perhaps another skill can be added for this specific ship. It's not a terribly hard thing to get around.

Probably because anything I suggest will have no merit to you regardless. The solution I offered is perfectly acceptable in my eyes.

A mid-freighter spaceship command skill like the freighter skill, prereqs would be racial industrial 3, adv spaceship command 3-4. Something alongs those lines. Again, it's up to CCP's discretion should they take any interest.
I believe the much higher cargo capacity and ehp of a full sized freighter is enough to warrant it's extra training time over the mid-freighter.

Good point, for people who have 2 or 3 clients to run them. But again they'll have much lower HP and than freighters and will still have a good 20-30 sec align time, so they'll be alot easier to pop. I do believe i'd feel alot safer ferrying more valuable cargo in a full-size freighter.

Ah, even better idea. So then you'd just need say, freighter 2 for the mid-freighter, and freighter 3 for the full-size?

I support this thread!



also: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2846340#post2846340 (if that helps)

You can reiterate this suggestion over and over but it won't stop it from being utterly unbalanced and leaving regular Freighters useless.

The extra training time for Freighters is irrelevant, as is their eHP and higher cargo cap. As Omnathious Deninard stated, which you so blatantly ignored is the fact that no one will buy a regular when they can use 2 smaller variants that would haul just as much more quickly at less cost.



The only way this would work is if there was a sizable gap between a smaller freighter and the regular ones already seeded or no one would use them for same reason I stated above. 1/3 the cargo capacity would be suitable, anymore and you risk extreme homogenization.

This is the exact reason that the tiericide for Iteron Mk. II, III, and IV got a second pass. Because simply having 3 hulls that increase in stats is redundant. Just like having a smaller freighter that hauls half of what a regular one does, is redundant.

Oh? Show me the part where I 'ignored' him, please.
I gave reasons as to why I believe using the smaller freighters will be less useful. Also, using 3 5-600m small freighters with similar cargo hold to one large freighter is more expensive.

And yes, i've realised the prices needed to be raised, cargo capacity need to be reduced and the skill requirements could be raised to match the large freighter - thanks to others who where helpful enough to provide counter-suggestions to these flaws, rather than just being plain critical and insulting.

That is not consistent with current Tiericide policies. The only way it could feasibly cost that little is if were classified as a totally different ship.. in which case it would need totally different prereqs to fly.. which you have not offered a balanced solution to..



Low eHP? Not good enough. Iteron Mk. I's are just as gankable as Occators which can have a larger eHP. A ship being "easy to pop" isn't a valid balancing point for ships meant to do 1 thing, move cargo.